Looking to buy an accent.

[ewochris]

Hey, what's up guys? I'm a mirage owner from www.mirageforums.com but I am looking for an accent to pick up for cheap to tear into and mod without ruining my daily driver. My question to everyone is which model should I get? I'm looking to get a 95-99 accent because of the nice cost. If possible I would want to get the model with the larger dohc engine but I know that they only put them in for 2 years so it might be hard to find that. Basically I am asking for which models have the most aftermarket support. But anyways you guys are the experts and any oppinions/ideas would be helpful. Thanks in advance.

[beppomarx]

get a 96 accent GT. its still a 1.5 but its a DOHC and its got a 7,000 redline. i know they made it in 97 as well but i dont know about 98; maybe.

and make sure you boost it because youll probably regret all the money youve spent if you stay N/A.

get stock pistons from a turbo hyundai s-coupe and they will fit in that engine. you can also use the s-coupe manifold but a tube style is obviously better and the OEM one only has a flange for a T2 turbo.

pretty easy to get suspension and other mods for it as well compared to the newer accent and other hyundais as well.

just a few hints and welcome to the boards :bandit:

[ewochris]

Cool man thanks for the help. Well now that I know that I will most likely go turbo for performance, what about the exterior? Are there differences in the kits for the sedans and coupes? If so, which version has more kits available?

[xxnoangel13xx]

I have n 01 n would be more than happy to sell it =)

[AUTOBOT]

Get the chepest one possible but just make sure it is a 96 or newer. Then take the money saved and swap in a Beta from the Tib or Elantra. If you are doing the swap, it will matter very little on which engine it comes with since they all use the same mount.

If you are not going to do a swap, I would get an LC since aftermarket support has a better chance of growing with those. No matter which year you get, aftermarket will suck but I am sure it does with the mirage too.:lol:

[ewochris]

Hmmm, I think I would rather do a swamp than turbo. Maybe i'll go that route. And yes aftermarket support for the mirage do suck ass but it's slowly growing. Thanks to places like puerto rico where the mirage is huge we actually get some good parts. Once again thanks guys.

[beppomarx]

just remember swapping in a beta adds a good 300lbs to the front right off the bat. and remember; all the 1.5 alpha (no matter if its a base SOHC or the GT DOHC or even the new 1.6 DOHC) AND the 2.0 beta were originally designed to be run with forced inducton. and if you put teh larger beta in there will be absolutely no more room for a turbo compressor and piping; or at best it will fit VERY tight and youd probably have to look into other radiator options as you will be very close there.

and its fairly expensive to make even the 2.0 push out 180whp.
$1000 for beta motor and tranny
$2000 easily for cams; balancing crank; pistons; overbored block; rods; exhaust; ecu; headwork; intake manifold work; BBTB.

whereas you can get rods and turbo pistons from a turbo s-coupe that drop right in cheaper than any aftermarket pistons. and the money you spend on cams alone will buy you a nice garret t3 turbo or similar and with an intercooler and good tuning youll be at 180whp right from the get go if you set it up right. and youll be lighter.

but remember i am very biased toward FI over N/A but however you want to build your car is quite fine i was just throwing out options.

[4doorGL]

300lbs? The Beta engine and Tib tranny weighs maybe an extra 100lbs over the stock Alpha.

As for potential. I was looking into turboing the Alpha (and did some research) and decided to go with a Beta swap instead. The turbo S-Coupe pistons are 7.5:1, which is VERY low. I also believe they are still cast which will put another damper on things. I believe the rods are the same also.

Keep this in mind...cheap, reliable, fast...pick 2 of those. You want a fast car that is reliable? Shell out some bucks for tuning, etc. There's not such thing as a perfectly reliable cheap turbo.

BTW, the SOHC 1.5L respondes rather well to NA mods.

You want 180whp that's reliable? Swap in a Beta, you're at 120whp right away. Run a low boost turbo kit (~7psi) on the stock internals and you're easily at 180whp.

180whp on the 1.5L is VERY unlikely and will take A LOT of tuning and work. Keep in mind the 1.5L only makes around 70whp stock, so you're talking about almost 3x as much power. That means you'll need over 15lbs of boost, which I'd be very hesitant to put on the stock S-Coupe parts.

[AUTOBOT]

Originally posted by beppomarx
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just remember swapping in a beta adds a good 300lbs to the front right off the bat.
[/body]

300lbs more then what? No engine at all? LOL

There is no way there is a 300lb difference in the 2 engines. If I remember right, the weight difference is less then 100lbs

Originally posted by beppomarx
[body]
and remember; all the 1.5 alpha (no matter if its a base SOHC or the GT DOHC or even the new 1.6 DOHC) AND the 2.0 beta were originally designed to be run with forced inducton. and if you put teh larger beta in there will be absolutely no more room for a turbo compressor and piping; or at best it will fit VERY tight and youd probably have to look into other radiator options as you will be very close there.

[/body]

There is room to put a turbo beta in the accent or have you forgotten about the Hyundai WRC car?

However, you will need to lose a/c or powersteering.

Originally posted by beppomarx
[body]

and its fairly expensive to make even the 2.0 push out 180whp.
$1000 for beta motor and tranny
$2000 easily for cams; balancing crank; pistons; overbored block; rods; exhaust; ecu; headwork; intake manifold work; BBTB.

[/body]

Yes it will be expensive to tune it to 180whp but so will an 180whp alpha. The Beta will also be more reliable at higher hp levels this is why you find it is used in all pro race Hyundais.

Originally posted by beppomarx
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whereas you can get rods and turbo pistons from a turbo s-coupe that drop right in cheaper than any aftermarket pistons. and the money you spend on cams alone will buy you a nice garret t3 turbo or similar and with an intercooler and good tuning youll be at 180whp right from the get go if you set it up right. and youll be lighter.
[/body]

It will take a little bit more then that to get a 180whp from the alpha. Ok, A LOT more then that.:hmmm:

Originally posted by beppomarx
[body]
but remember i am very biased toward FI over N/A but however you want to build your car is quite fine i was just throwing out options.
[/body]

That is fine, but you can run a bigger turbo and run much higher boost an the Beta then the alpha. Tuning the alpha is always an option but it is one more limited then tuning the Beta.

[beppomarx]

wow no more posting for me after 1 hour of sleep.

i got owned. sorry :dead: