Just a little bit of background info... i drive a pretty much stock 07 accent gs... (strut tower bar and air intake) I am building the car for road courses and am aware that winning is 75% skill 25% parts... and always practice.
So i was heading home from a car meet up, going from one major road to another, (us 41 to us 30) i was in the inside turn lane (there were two) turning left... when the green arrow showed the truck next to me started accellerating a little faster than what would be normal for a TRUCK to accelerate through a corner... so, I went WOT... i cleared the turn without braking or releasing throttle with only the mildest tire chirp clearing and maintaining lane around the median.... before I knew it, a wrx flew up on my right... had obviously taken notice of the turn I had just made...
Anyway, he decided to race me, and i wont lie i tried too, being a wrx on a straight line I was obviously anhialated. but we kept high speeds ranging between 60 & 80... all the way down to the street where i needed to turn... about 3 city blocks down... the intersection for traffic going the way we were, had 4 lanes 2 turn lanes (1 for each direction) and 2 center lanes.
It was a red light and he was obviously a long way ahead of me... what he didn't expect though, was that I would maintain a speed of 75 into the right turn lane... as I FLEW by him (he was slowing down for the red) I released throttle appr 20 feet from the apex, applied brake at 12 feet (hit the turn at about 55-60) took the turn and reaccelerated back to 70mph... from decelleration to reacceleration probably lasted about 2.75 seconds tops, I made the turn while only passing MAYBE 2 feet over the yellow line... for the most part the line that i pulled was almost entirely within the legal/normal turn radius.
It was the best turn I have made thus far in my career with this type of race.
I just gotta imagine the look on his face... it was road race PERFECTION.
now im expecting the flaming for public street speed... but realize this occurred at 12:00 in the morning with no other traffic.
I love when that stuff happens
*edit* and please, dont give me any lectures for driving fast on a public road... I do it for a living.
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Yyyyeah... $3000 dollars going straight into suspension by the end of the summer... its gonna be crazy
from what i notice, there never seams to be a true WINNER in street races. Someone always has to stop at a red, you make a turn basicly its small little car chases in wich you both will play tag for a bit untill you finally go your seperate ways. Its a cool feeling to be crusin on the freeway and have some wrx or Pontiac fly by you and you fly up and catch up to them quickly or when a car tries to pass you and your too quick for him that he has to get right behind you again where he belongs....
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2003 Tiburon GT (WIP)
"Ever notice that someone going faster than you is crazy and that someone going slower is an idiot?"
That was a controlled inviroment, no traffic on a "closed" road. We had people at BOTH ends with radios to tell us if there was traffic. This was in the middle of nowhere. I do not street race in the sense that everyone else does. If there is more than the car next to me on the road within sight i DO NOT race. I also will not race if there are street lights or anything. That was on a highway.
I am a huge fan of the strip tho. I try to go every weekend.
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Dunno about you m8, but a few years ago I was into the very same sh!t that you are now. And guess what, everything from the FWD weight-transfer to make the car rotate on an axis to the neutral-steer drift method didn't do squat when I first hit the circuit: I got destroyed(IIRC Wytch used the same methods a while back and had quite a bit of success in street, long before we realised how dangerous and potentially fatal what we were doing was)
Its about 6-7 years on at this point, and I went back to it for about a week to figure out what I was doing back then(took the sh!ter to Winton Raceway) What happened was, I was over-driving the car and not letting it flow from entry to exit(hence the forced weight transfer and the resulting behaviour) The result? 27 seconds, almost a half-minute slower. And. In one day, I bent the chassis to the point that the rear hatch rattled, the driver's window couldn't close, the passenger door looked to be high and the driver's door looked to be low, rainwater began leaking through the weatherstrips and the car crabwalked on the road. Needless to say, I scrapped the car as it was pretty much destroyed. This was after ONE day of trying to get my normal times with the old techniques. Tyres were stock, sub-200mil width road tyres. If they'd been 215mil semi's, I reckon the chassis might have given way. This is how inefficient street "racing" techniques are on the circuit, and an eample of the kind of loads & forces that one can generate on a prepared surface, even with "normal" tyres. It's best not to learn them if you want to take road racing seriously in the future.
Some hints:
-If you want to start circuit driving then here's some advice; nothing, and I mean nothing, no matter how many corners you take fast on the street, will help prepare you for it. The reason is, you are entering so much faster and so much harder on the brakes that the car will feel completely different. The lateral loading is intense, much more intense than on the streets because of the prepared surface. If you get used to doing it on the street, you will never be using the maximum cornering force your tyres can supply for just that reason; there is just that much more grip.
-A rumble strip can be anywhere from 9 inches to 2 feet wide. If you pass over the line, you've just cut the grass in a big way. The idea is to put the wheels exactly where you want them.
-Turning speed isn't about sheer entry; it's about exiting as quickly as you can. This is one thing that you'll never be able to learn on the street.
-On the street, no two cars "racing" are ever being pushed to 60%, much less 98%(the rest is left over for errors to occur; a human being isn't a swiss watch and is never completely consistant) of their total performance envelope in the context of circuit driving. Your tyres are never warm. On the circuit with warm tyres, you can push that much further. "That much further" is generally a freaking lot. Enough to seriously injure to kill.
If you want to take up road course, then drive on the road course. On the street, you tend to learn the wrong thing and when you finally get around to it, you will apply the wrong thing. At this stage, driving habits are very hard to change.
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Yes today is a sad day in the Hyundai Perfomance community...
Another streetracing obsessed ricer joins the board.
ROFL I deliver pizzas bro... lol... and understand I DO NOT street race... but i drive fast.... I have to I live in an area that over the past three years has quadrupled in street population and driving like a normal person has become near impossible. It takes 45 minutes to go 5 miles down the street trying to drive like a normal person... I just cant do that... lol relax... i've been up to doti rd (chicagos actual street racing spot) maybe twice but have never raced.
You dont know what i would give to find a road course.... I live in bumfork nw indiana... the only thing hot is chicago and thats ALL streetracing fanatics....
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Yyyyeah... $3000 dollars going straight into suspension by the end of the summer... its gonna be crazy
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