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Old 04-10-2009, 11:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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BTW, what kind of turbo is on the coupe? is it a 16G?
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Old 04-11-2009, 01:50 AM   #12 (permalink)
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"They both have the same block, but that's it. The Genesis motor was designed by Hyundai. They then gave the design to Mitsu, who tweaked it and turned it into the 4B11. They stuffed that with forged internals, slapped on a turbo and called it the 4B11T. The EVO motor has very little in common with the Hyundai 2.0T motor.."
Theres more diffrence than you might think

just turning up the boost might not get you much more hp. The T25 on a GSX could only go up to like 10 psi, and get a few more HP. You might need a bigger turbo, injectors, and fuel management.
yes yes I have heard of all the differences in evo engine compared to the genesis engine. evos forged internals and so on... its still not enough to convince me that i need to spend 5k to reach 300hp in a genesis
unfortunately turbo's are not limiting itself in boost waistgates do.
the DSM's 14b or T25 can go 22psi if you can spool it that fast and if it can handle the engine horse power out put.

regardless of what kind of turbo the genesis has (its probably a small cheap one) there is always a bigger or faster spooling one, I learned this from WRX fanatics.

I think we can push the Genesis above 300hp with a 3" straight exhaust,
tubular headers, bigger turbo swap, taking out belt power leach with lighter pulleys, and tuning.

but sure an easier cheaper way to achieve 300hp turn up the boost, higher flow exhaust, and tune.

If big companies say they can achieve a sertain horsepower with their products and you try them and find that you cant THAT'S CALLED FALSE ADVERTISEMENT, and yes it is open and viable law suit.
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AMS has been able to turn the boost up to 18psi on a stock motor. Resulted in 43whp in the midrange. At 18.5 psi, The ECU goes into panic mode and bypasses the turbo until you shut the engine off and start it back up.
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Cobra was taling about internal upgrades, how much power do you guys want? The Eclipse 3.8 can handel 375 WHP. So what are you guys thinking?
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AMS has been able to turn the boost up to 18psi on a stock motor. Resulted in 43whp in the midrange. At 18.5 psi, The ECU goes into panic mode and bypasses the turbo until you shut the engine off and start it back up.
is it the air fuel mix thats making it go in to panic mode, or is it the timming?
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Neither... The ECU monitors and controls actual boost levels. If it sees over 18.5psi, it opens the BOV and holds it open until you reset it by turning off the car.
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Thats not good. So you will have to get the AEM ecu to go over 18.5 PSI
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Nobody knows yet. AMS is working on it. Might be able to "clamp" the factory MAP sensor to keep the ECU from seeing any more boost.
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Is that something Hyundai came up with, or is that something Mitsu and Subi do also?
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Most factory turbo cars are MAP based. If you exceed the pressure rating of the MAP sensor, the car will have some kind of issue. I think Hyundai is the only one that holds the bypass valve open until you restart the car though.
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