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Old 09-18-2001, 08:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default Can 5-Speed Tiburons beat V6 autos?

I'm just curious. Can manual-transmission cars such as the Tiburon or even the 140hp Celica or Integra beat V6 automatics such as the Toyota Camry and Accord if the driver is good enough?

Or is that just impossible.

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Old 09-18-2001, 11:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I beat a v6 auto accord with my auto tibby. Of course the driver sucked horribly... I don't think she pressed the gas all the way...but I do have the slips to prove it lol...

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Old 09-18-2001, 11:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Can 5-Speed Tiburons beat V6 autos?

maual or auto it doesnt make a whole lot of difference once the auto is out of the 1-3k rpm range which only takes about 1 second. after that you are just about equal. but insome case that second can kill you. thats why i got Zex hehe<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

did you just lose to an auto 4spd? i think you did...
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Old 09-19-2001, 12:24 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Can 5-Speed Tiburons beat V6 autos?

The Camry is a much heavier car and the four door Accord is as well. Because of this, even though they might have a little more horse, it is needed to move the bulky weight of the car. Remember too, a Tib can beat even a good v8 in a 1/8 of a mile if you have good reaction time.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Old 09-19-2001, 12:44 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I've beat a Camry V6-LE so yes you can, and as far as accords? I don't know... My friend has a 92 accord EX and it's a 5 speed... not a V6 but I beat it everytime....

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Old 09-19-2001, 04:15 AM   #6 (permalink)
 
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Default Re: Can 5-Speed Tiburons beat V6 autos?

about a month ago, several V6 automatic 95-99 Nissan Maxima owners on www.maxima.org admitted to losing to the 140 hp 5spd Celica GT. I'm pretty sure in short races the stick will over power a sluggish auto

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I've beat a Camry V6-LE so yes you can, and as far as accords? I don't know... My friend has a 92 accord EX and it's a 5 speed... not a V6 but I beat it everytime....

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Old 09-20-2001, 06:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
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B-4 the turbo I could smoke my friends 1999 V6 Auto Accord. They are fairly sluggish 0-40. Above 40 they really take off.

You'd never beat one in a 40-80 MPH race, but a 0-60, you should be able to do it.
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>maual or auto it doesnt make a whole lot of difference once the auto is out of the 1-3k rpm range which only takes about 1 second. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=1 id=quote>

Actually the auto's are slower for three reasons.
1) As stated above, they don't get to launch with as much power, because they're at lower RPM's upon launching.
2) Auto-box loses more power between flywheel and wheels than manual. For tibs, loss is about 16% for auto, and about 11.5% for stick. So again, they won't even have as much power to use.
3) Taller gears are slower for acceleration. 4 speed auto trannies are going to have taller (slower) gears than your 5 speed stick.

I can take both V6 Camry's and V6 Accords with my car, but only by a couple cars.

And Random's right, the V6 Accord is more of a highway cruiser than a drag racer, so the gearing is appropriate for having power later on, not 0-60.

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Old 09-20-2001, 06:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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When my mom lets me or i just steal her 2000 Honda Accord V6 I usually race a few ppl light to light and in my experiences I beat most lower hp 5-spds but then again I never actually raced in a real 1/4 mi or 1/8 mi, but the I have been beatin by a few Tibbi's but They all had mods so It's really a toss up depends on driver, conditions, and distance.

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Old 09-20-2001, 07:55 PM   #10 (permalink)
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my car beats my dads buick century v6 auto

not a big accomplishment but it pertains to the topic

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