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Old 09-01-2001, 05:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What goes into an air suspension? And what has to come out of my car? Is it possible to autoX/drag on bags?

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Old 09-01-2001, 01:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This seems like a question for Lo&Show... hehehe...

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Old 09-01-2001, 04:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Now correct me if I am wrong but airbags seem like a thing to do for looks and extreme pavement scraping with your car. I do not believe they would be good for Autox style of racing.
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Old 09-01-2001, 06:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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In an airbag setup you have a tank, compressor or two depending on setup, electronic or manual values depending on how fast you want it and the size lines you are running. Not sure what exactly what stuff needs to beremoved on a car. My guess would be struts, coils, probably would have to trim some metal back as well to make room. Might have to relocate shocks as well. Not sure. But I don't think you will be able to run autocross with this setup b/c of the bodyroll that you will have from the air whiching from one bag to the other. Not unless you run a front,back,side to side setup that way every bag as it's own inlet and outlet port. This will help stabilze the car and remove some of the body roll. If you do this setup you'll need either one big tank or two small ones, possible one big compessor or two small ones, electronic values, and aleast 3/8 to 1/2 lines.
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Old 09-06-2001, 04:20 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I've done alot of write ups on this. If you go to Team SR's board, and do a search for Airbags, you'll find a Looooooooooong post that I did entitled "Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Air Suspension."

It basically gives you all the info you could ever want on this type of suspension set up. But to answer a couple of your questions, there are only a very small handful of companies out there that offer air ride kits for Korean vehicles. Some of these kits are weld on, and others are bolt on. The kits that I offer are strictly bolt on, so in case you ever want to go back to stock or regular lowered spring suspension, it's real easy to do so.

As far as what Tigger said...it depends on what kit you get as far as suspension rigidty. The air bag kits are not good for drag racing or auto-x....but the air rods kits are ok. I'm currently working on some new designs for a new kits that willl allow you to either auto-x or drag without a problem. These will be full Fast Air "Rod" kits. I'll have kits for Accents and Tiburons, and so far I have 2 people who are coming to my place to be guinea pigs for both kits once the final prototypes are finished. If everything goes as planned, I should have these new kits finished by early part of next year, and then I can start working on getting kits for the Elantra, and Sonata.

Guilty...you're basically right with all the parts. Except, the parts you mentioned are standard products for an air bag kit. It's almost identical to the "Rod" kits...just a couple of small differences. Also, with my new kits..there will be a special little manifold for the front and rear that will montior the air in each rod. Any time the rods start to lose air from drag or auto-x, the manifolds will automatically keep a constant supply to the rods so that they don't lose air, and therefore, not allowing your car to sag to one side or the other. There's a bit more into it, but you get the idea. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Anyone that gets a normal kit, they can watch the air pressure in each bag or rod by installing a set of PSI gauges to watch the air pressure on each side. If you start to auto-x and you notice one side getting softer, just air up a little and you'll be good to go. However, there will be alot of body roll with bags no matter what you do. The rods are the best if you decide to go that route (auto-x) other than show.
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