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Guys,
I like both cars a lot and am having a real hard time deciding what car I
am going to get. Their HP is the same but the torque is only 130 @ 6800 on
the GTS. The GTS is about 500lb lighter. That would even things? Well what do you think?

(yes the GTS cost more……..I want a car to car comparison)
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I went through the same debate as you...and quite frankly the Tiburon is a much better deal.... The celica has very cheap interrior which didn't impress me at all.... The tiburon has everything you could possibly want plus the warranty... and for around $5000 CHEAPER! <img src=/images/forums/snitz/smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>


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I agree with shadowgate. No question Tiburon is a better deal. As a bonus, Tiburon looks hot too <img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>


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yes I know the Tib gt is cheaper.
I plan on getting a used GTS.
I can get one for 17,500.
I want to know what car will
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Until owners start getting '03's to the track, it will be hard to say for sure. But keep in mind, although both are rated at about the same hp, the Celica is significantly lighter to the the tune of 3-400 lbs! That makes a big difference if all you're concerned about is all our performance. GT-S' with a good driver can hit high 14's in the 1/4 completely stock.

In day to day driving though, the '03 Tib's higher torque rating will probably make it a more tractable car - ie it's performance will be easier to get at and you won't have to be revving the bejeezus out of it so much. Depends on which style of driving you like better.


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I'm having a similar debate with myself, except I've got a camaro z28 in there, but that's my debate.
I'd go with the Celica GTS, in my opinion it looks much better than the tibby, and the Toyota name is much more respectable than Hyundai. Seriously, I mentioned at school I might get a hyundai and everyone was tryin' to talk me out of it. But I'm pretty sure once they see the gt v6's performance times they'll change their minds.
Anyways, I'm pretty sure the Celica performs better, and if you get one with the action pkg, it looks even better. But even without the action pkg it still looks better than the tib.
But the tibs got a longer warranty, a nicer interior - my opinion at least - but then again, the Celica is called the Celica....ooooh....<img src=/images/forums/snitz/smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>
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don't underestimate the power of torque vs weight... torque is what gets you flying

In my 2001 tib with just intake, i have taken on GT's all day long, i was in the car with my friend when he took on a nice GTS through 2nd gear he had him by about a half car length, then 3rd gear, the gts finally picked up and started pulling...

the chevy camaro... Iroc Z... v8 a measly ****ing 170 hp... boohoo, less then the tiburon and the gts (2003 tib) and holy **** was it heavy. and it weighs about 600-700 more then the 99 tib, which my friend races in, with a 55 shot of zex, and cat back with cai. looking at under 200 hp, 180 ft lb torque, and who came on top? the camaro (1988) that 250 ft lb torque, with auto transmission even (tib was 5 speed) pulled that crazy bitch all over the line. the nos pulled at him for a few seconds, one huge shift in the camaro, and about a quarter mile later, camaro is about a full car length ahead

never underestimate the power of torque... hehe

even if it only has 170 dinky horsepower

when you see stats on tv, i usually don't car about the hp, i wanna see torque baby

i would still go with the new tiburon... maybe wait it out and see some go onto the used market in a year or so... and save some cash... and then you can spend that money saved and make it really something


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I like the new Tib and the GTS. My main problem with the GTS is the very noisy, busy engine you have to put up with to get any real performance. High reving ALL the time can be tedious. The Tib has a nice interior and delivers good power early in the rpm range...much nicer for round-town and slightly spirited driving. Why listen to the opinions of people who made up their minds about Hyundai years ago and are still living there? They don't have a clue, and haven't bothered looking for one. Do your own research, test drive, ask questions, read reviews then make up your mind.
I have a neighbor in his 50's that tells me he remembers when peeps would tell him to avoid Honda cause they were "cheap Japanese cars." A few years later and people were holding up Honda as an example of quality....food for thought. Anyhoo, sorry about the rambling,
The GTS is a nice car. It is quicker in the quarter mile, but the Tib has the better warranty and can match the GTS with a few mods. I think the GTS is prolly tuned-out at factory...don't think I/H/E will change much...could be wrong.
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Im not going to pop in about witch is better. But I have a Mod question as to the Celcia (I have the Tib gt) The new ones use Variable timming right (or am I worng)
But I they do. Can they handle Turbo, Supercharger, NO2 or do you risk blowing the Cams. <img src=/images/forums/snitz/oogle.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>


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I am also in the same debate between the '03 Tib GT and the GT-S. I would also buy a used GTS so cost is not in the equation. I have drove an automatic 03 tib ( only one the dealer had) and liked driving it around town it was fun and enjoyable. My question is, does the GT-S offer that same fun and drivablity or do you have to pound the sh1t out of it to get any enjoyment or speed.


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ia1650,

To quote Edmunds.com in there review of the GT-S:

"the Celica would be the cocky athlete with plenty of raw skill, but still a little rough around the edges. Engine performance is strong, but only as long as you keep it "in the zone."

and,

"Snag a Celica GT-S, drive it like you hate it, and you won't be disappointed."

Everything I've heard is that you have to constantly wring the living **** out of it to get all of that performance. I've heard that the GT is actually more fun to drive than the GT-S. The choice is yours though, I really like my new '03 Tiburon, but then I should hope so, I bought it after all.

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'Normal' drivers drive around 3,000 RPM or lower when cruising around.

With the Celica GT-S and RSX Type-S all your power is around 6,000RPM to redline.

With the Tiburon your power is between well I would say 3,000 - 6,500 RPM.

In other words, you gotta have it revving high to produce power in the Celica and RSX, something you don't want to do if you want to conserve gas. The car is utterally gutless otherwise.

On the other hand, the Tiburon, has power throughout the power band. This translates to passing power without really having to downshift to boost your RPMs, power off the line and so on and so on.

Only advantage though for the Celica is the weight! If they would have had a better looking car, I personally would have considered the Celica.

BUT based on price and looks, Tiburon all the way. I dont know, Tiburon still kinda reminds me of the last gen Supra, I m sorry.


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I have to agree with the Supra comment. One of the first things that I thought when I saw the 03 was SUPRA!? I really think it is the best looking car hyundai has ever put out and one of the best on the market right now regardless of price (some exotics excluded).

Thanks for the info about the GTS and Tib. I am leaning towards the tib since I don't race 1/4 mile and I want a car that is fun to drive and maybe strut some stuff at a stoplight or two. I don't want to put sooo much effort in feeling a cars performance, I am not a race car driver, just a guy who like cars and likes to drive them.

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i bet ya one thing, you'll be squealing more tires on that GT than the celica...

that and dont support the Japanese economy...hahaha, let those bastards burn


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Yeah ia1650,
If you really aren't that interested in the track or 1/4 times,but do like to cruise around and enjoy the
whole look and feel of the car...get the Tib. It makes a purty sound too, even cruising.<img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>...the V-6
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Actually, on a road course, the new Tiburon with the V6 will out pull the Ceilca GTS in the corners too. Torque gets you going AND pulls you through the corners.




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<img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>Thats if you can't keep the revs up man...comes down to the wire I'd go with the Celica. It's lighter...and with roughly even power.
When it comes to the powerband issue, that depends on the driver. If you know how to keep the revs up you can use the Celica's weight advantage, though the Tibby's torque occurs through a wider rpm band, this "advantage" goes back to zero if the Celica driver knows how to keep the engine in it's optimum rev/torque band...


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Don't quote me...

But in a side by side comparison, the Tiburon GT out handled the Celica GT-S in the corners. Yes the Tiburon V6 and the Celica I4. Thats how vastly improved Hyundai did with the suspension. I guess they don't call it 'better' then the I4 suspension for nothing.

The winner ended up being the RSX Type-S.


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I wouldn't listen to the people that drive the new tiburons, theyre prolly a little biased. But I'd still go with the Celica, you just gotta figure out how to get it to perform best.
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