Hyundai Forum: Hyundai Performance Forum banner

2017 Accent need to replace integrated cat/manifold

74 Views 4 Replies 2 Participants Last post by  geezer101
Hi all I am having major issues with my girlfriends 2017 Accent. It has 94k miles and is burning a lot of oil about a qt/200 miles. The biggest problem right now is the CEL is indicating the cat is not operating per spec and is probably clogged with oil/oil combustion products.

My question is how hard is the job. I haven't found a specific video. There is one for an Elantra where they had to loosen the engine and strap it and move it forward to get the part out. It is u shaped. Another video it wasn't necessary. Just undo the 8 or so bolts at the engine and probly drill the 2 bolts downstream at the exhaust and transplant the O2 sensor and Heat shield. IF I can do it the part is $150 for an aftermarket.

The Dealer want $1800. I went to them about the oil consumption and am going to fight with the aftermarket warranty company for the engine. I haven't priced a independent shop yet but I am guessing $800 or so.

Is it doable?
1 - 5 of 5 Posts
First, check your PCV function/condition. This is a super cheap and easy part to replace. You can try to soak it in brake cleaner to flush it out or drop it into a jewellery ultrasonic cleaner for a few minutes until the yeech inside of it dissolves and frees itself. This will be the main cause of oil consumption. As for the exhaust manifold, you shouldn't need to drill out anything to remove it. This should be a job you can handle but you will need under car access to get to it. Access to the rear of the engine is limited - be prepared to face some frustration and allow maybe a whole day to remove and reinstall. Be careful with O2 sensors as accidentally denting /crushing or damaging the wiring harness can leave them non functioning. BUT, before replacing that manifold I would at least do the following -

*Check PCV and clean/replace at your discretion

*Remove O2 sensor and clean it out (I soaked mine in a diluted solution of pre wash stain remover which is partly white spirits and distilled water and put it through a jewellery ultrasound cleaner until clouds of contamination has stopped coming out of the housing) DO NOT USE BRAKE CLEANER OR ANYTHING THAT WILL LEAVE A RESIDUE ON IT - IT WILL KILL IT

*Engine oil flush. The engine has experienced constant blow by due to the increased crank case pressure caused by the faulty PCV. Carbon and burnt oil will collect in the rings and piston grooves/gas ports reducing compression and fuel has broken down the engine oil. Here is how I perform an oil flush. Be aware the Accent has different oil levels and filters than the ones in this write up so check service manuals etc. I guarantee this is safe and have done it countless times on much older high mileage cars.

After doing the above suggestions, drive it for a few days and see if the CEL warning goes out. If it does, you may have evaded the need to replace the cat/manifold. Good luck and leave feedback or outcomes on your thread here.
Thanks for posting.
See less See more
First, check your PCV function/condition. This is a super cheap and easy part to replace. You can try to soak it in brake cleaner to flush it out or drop it into a jewellery ultrasonic cleaner for a few minutes until the yeech inside of it dissolves and frees itself. This will be the main cause of oil consumption. As for the exhaust manifold, you shouldn't need to drill out anything to remove it. This should be a job you can handle but you will need under car access to get to it. Access to the rear of the engine is limited - be prepared to face some frustration and allow maybe a whole day to remove and reinstall. Be careful with O2 sensors as accidentally denting /crushing or damaging the wiring harness can leave them non functioning. BUT, before replacing that manifold I would at least do the following - *Check PCV and clean/replace at your discretion *Remove O2 sensor and clean it out (I soaked mine in a diluted solution of pre wash stain remover which is partly white spirits and distilled water and put it through a jewellery ultrasound cleaner until clouds of contamination has stopped coming out of the housing) DO NOT USE BRAKE CLEANER OR ANYTHING THAT WILL LEAVE A RESIDUE ON IT - IT WILL KILL IT *Engine oil flush. The engine has experienced constant blow by due to the increased crank case pressure caused by the faulty PCV. Carbon and burnt oil will collect in the rings and piston grooves/gas ports reducing compression and fuel has broken down the engine oil. Here is how I perform an oil flush. Be aware the Accent has different oil levels and filters than the ones in this write up so check service manuals etc. I guarantee this is safe and have done it countless times on much older high mileage cars. After doing the above suggestions, drive it for a few days and see if the CEL warning goes out. If it does, you may have evaded the need to replace the cat/manifold. Good luck and leave feedback or outcomes on your thread here. Thanks for posting.
I replaced the PCV last month. The P0420 CEL Cat error cycles on and off every week or so. It needs to be off to pass inspection.
Thanks for the response. Try the oil flush then. If the rings are not able to fully expand, you will lose compression and it will cause blow by and oil consumption etc. Once you have performed the oil flush, change the oil you have been using. Something heavier or an oil recommended for higher mileage. If you can get on top of the oil consumption, I believe you will no longer see the CEL warning. IMO if the cat was actually bad, the CEL light would stay on.

*while performing the oil flush, get the car onto a highway where the engine will experience an actual load and extended periods in the midrange and upper rpm band. I have found that, when an engine with this issue is driven under these conditions, within 30-40 minutes there is an improvement in engine response and it will feel like some power has been restored. Start/stop driving and short trips will foul oil quickly. The flush will strip contaminated oil from the crank case, improve power and fuel economy and the overall longetivity of the oil between servicing.
See less See more
1 - 5 of 5 Posts
Top