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Is the 140HP listed for the DOHC 2.0 for the newer cars realistic? Has anybody actualy put one on an engine dyno or their car on a dyno and have a stock HP /TQ at the wheels rating? I've driven the ford focus that is supposed to put out 10HP less but only 2FTLB more and it seemed a whole lot faster in every gear (5speeds) and did not seem to be geared lower/enough to account for what I've felt seat of the pants.


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The new Elantra weighs around 300lbs more then the previous generation Elantra. Now, the previous Elantra, believe it or not weighs only 70lbs less then the Focus! So you are looking at a 270lb increase in weight in the car, so that could be part of it. Could be geared higher for a sportier feel. I have never driven the Focus, so I cannot say.


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Red02GT, I noticed that you have a 2002 model. It's probably brand new with few miles on it. Give it some time and let it break in. At first, mine was not that fast too. Right now, I have around 5700 miles. And it feels much faster. I am serious. I can feel that it pulls much better now. And G-tech proved that. Before, the best I could do was 9.2 secs 0-60. Now it's down to 8.5 and I think my shifting is pretty bad. Don't think that it happened accidentally. I did 6 runs each time in the same part of the road. I think my car can smoke a Focus, not SVT of course!


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The curb weight listed for the focus i drove is 2564 lbs, the hyundai GT is 2635 lbs, that's only 71 lbs and the ford only holds 1 gallon of fuel less assuming a full tank in both however with a 240 lb passenger aboard I don't feel any seat of the pants diff in acceleration.<img src=/images/forums/snitz/uhh.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>
The acceleration diff I felt was impressive to almost make me overlook the warrantee/4wheel disc/side air bags.


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A few car reviewers have stated that the Focus seemed faster around town than the road test indicated. Be careful about perceptions though, they can be very deceiving. The Elantra IS faster, no question about it, 0-60 and 1/4 mile. And yes, I agree, at 8,000 miles my GLS seems much more alert and responsive than before.<img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>


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Oh, sorry forgot<img src=/images/forums/snitz/tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0> I have raced two Focuses (Foci?) a ZX3 and a sedan...beat both by a few car lengths. Totally stock GLS.<img src=/images/forums/snitz/guns.gif width=33 height=16 border=0>


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I have the 2001.5 GT....

I just got my car wieghed, and 2635 is wrong. we'll say, for the sake of argument, that the speaker box, amp, and less that a quarter of a tank of gas weighed 100 pounds. That still leaves the car at 2860. thats right, 225 #s heavier than RED02GT's figure. And no, I wasn't in the vehicle at he time<img src=/images/forums/snitz/tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>


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The focus and neon are geared lower, so they feel more peppy, the Elantra has higher gearing ahd more dampening so you don't feel the power untill higher in the rpm band, thats before you add the extra 100-150 lbs it weighs. The Elantras motor is similar to the Mistu and nissan 2.0 as far as performance, the power don't start comming untill after 3000 rpm, the neon and focus will take you off the line since they have a better low end, but ie off at hi rpm when the beta starts to pour it on. Different design and power curve.


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Well irregardless of wieght and posted speed and acceleration. Before I bought the 2002 Elantra GT I thouroughly test drove The toyota carolla Gt or sport or whatever turd it was, several focus' (the car I actually wanted until I drove the slow turd and saw how crappy the materials and finish was), and the Sentra Se-R (before the newer spec va nd such were out). Plain and simply the only two cars to compare when buying a compact sport in the economy dollar range are the Sentra SE-R and the Elantra GT. Both are the only two that don't severly dissapoint. Give each a hard test drive and you will see for yourself. I'll let you decide the Sentra's are nice just a little more dollars. My 2 cents. Both are a class above the others.


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Don't even think about buying a Focus! My wife has one with the 16V. This thing has been in the shop ten times. I'm on a first name basis with Ed of Team 1. 23k miles of recalls, bad brake rotors, shocks, etc.. In Carreview.com Focus owners cry about them on a regular basis. My Elantra has proven to be much more reliable than the Focus and more fun to drive. Of course my Wifes Focus has the automatic.

http://www.carreview.com/Midsize-Compact/PLS_1531_70crx.aspx


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Other than the HP drop and three vary minor defects missed by the prep guy I have had no serious problems yet but have yet to hit 4000 miles<img src=/images/forums/snitz/smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0> oh, yah I drive it REAL HARD ya know, like I stole it!<img src=/images/forums/snitz/wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0> I guess that 10 year 100,000 mile warrantee tends to make one feel bold<img src=/images/forums/snitz/laugh.gif width=15 height=31 border=0><img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>


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I8acobra I also mispelled weight as "wieght"<img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>


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as far as hp goes, once you pass near 15000 miles then the car actualy gets near the quoted hp. im actualy around 80000 and she seems to have more t to wheels, Focus ha they r a waste of gas to race. i hate the way their headlites look in my mirrors. <img src=/images/forums/snitz/cool.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>


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'96 Elantra GLS
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my tib IS faster at 70,000 then it was at 10,000 its all about the break in!! i've gained like .1 or .15 in my 0-60 ...the beta likes to be broken in WELL!!


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Ain't no little pissy Focus or Neon that can take ME off the line.. unless the car is modded. I don't know about all of you, but I can launch mine pretty well. My friend has a 2001 Grand Am GT just like me (wife's car) and I just raced him night before last. I matched him all the way to 60, then he started to pull slowly away, then around 75 or so, he was still ahed about 2/3 car length (his rear bumper was about 2/3 car length from my front bumper) then he stoped pulling, but I didn't gain either. FYI the Grand Am GT is 7.7 to 60 and 15.8 in the 1/4 according to the mags and my friend has modded his car a little. <img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0> I CAN drive this Elantra!! <img src=/images/forums/snitz/smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0><img src=/images/forums/snitz/cool.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>


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I own both a 2002, five-speed Elantra and a 2001, five-speed, ZX3 Focus. There have been some pretty negative comments on here regarding the Focus. I can tell you from owning both of them their strengths and weaknesses. In a drag race the Focus would win the eighth mile with its lower gearing, torque advantage, and lower curb weight. If the race continued for 1/4 mile or maybe even half a mile the Elantra would win, with its higher gearing and higher horsepower rating.
In the handling department there is no contest. The Elantra feels like a Lincoln Town Car in the twisties with tremendous body roll. You can tell the suspension is designed with comfort in mind. The Focus feels like the European track star that it is. If you don't believe me: check out any of the mags and note which car has a higher skid pad rating and which car can go through the slalom faster. In terms of top speed the Focus is electronically limited to 106mph. But it feels right at home in the triple digits. The Elantra has the power to go 120mph+ but it feels "floaty" compared to the Focus at higher speeds. I personally don't like going much over 90 in the Elantra and I would cruise at 100 all day long in the Focus. When price is applied the Elantra obviously wins in fact I paid $14,000 for my ZX3 (it is loaded with the Power Premium Package) and I paid $11,500 for the Elantra. The Elantra wins the bang for the buck contest. The Elantra also obviously has a better warranty. There are some little things that I don't understand. The Focus came standard with a CD player. The Elantra has a tape deck. I mean come on this is 2002. By the way the sound system is alot better in the Focus too. I have already remedied the CD problem by adding a 12 disc CD changer to the Elantra. In conclusion they are both nice cars and I like them both. In an all around performance comparison I have got to admit that the Focus would win. If 1/4 mile times are the only things you are going to look at then the Elantra wins. Hey I like both cars I bought both of them didn't I?

Thanks Jeremy


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Lets compare apples to apples the sporty zx3 or zx5 is not sporty compared to the Elantra GT. The Elantra Gt is standard with a cd player and the front componants are some of the best I have heard from a sub 35000 car. Gt with same 2.0 L Beta would stomp the focus. Bet lets all get along, I still think the focus is a good car just not as good as an Elantra GT, the benefit of the focus is the hella cheap and fast to respond after market. That kind of treatment for a hyundai would rock. any how I digress. Peace<img src=/images/forums/snitz/smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>


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Oh yeah those 195/60/15's are real sporty compared to the 205/50/16's on my ZX3. My interior also looks sporty. The Elantra looks like a 1990's Toyota. Like I said before the Elantra is a nice car. But it is an affordable family car. The ZX3 IS the sports car of the two. Oh by the way if you really want to compare apples lets take the top of the line GT and let it run against an SVT. Motor Trend just tested an SVT and it ran a [email protected] This was with the undefeatable traction control. The car would have been a low 15 second car without the traction control. If you want to argue value, feature content, or warranty, then the Elantra wins. If you want to argue sportiness then there is really no comparison. Remember I drive both all of the time. Later Jeremy


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