Cutting the shifter
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Next time you drive your car hold the shifter just below the knob. You will notice faster shifting, it dosen't take as long to get into certain gears(3rd, 5th, 1st).
Its a nice <b>Free Mod</b> to do if you can't afford the short throw shifter. I have also heard it does a mad awesome tightening if you also have a short throw
One last note, unconfirmed, the grinding you feel as your transmission gets older when shifting seems to go away.
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Its a nice <b>Free Mod</b> to do if you can't afford the short throw shifter. I have also heard it does a mad awesome tightening if you also have a short throw
One last note, unconfirmed, the grinding you feel as your transmission gets older when shifting seems to go away.
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What grinding are you referring to cause mine feels like it is doing some grinding mainly when I shift from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd. I have 52,xxx miles. On a side note, I just got the tranny fluid changed would this have anything to do with it.
The grinding I talk about is when you shift and you grind. Kinda like for a moment the car dosent want to go there. Your shifting is tighter so its more precise.
Hey wonder if Kid Hyundai could post on this. He is the one who told me about this originally...
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Hey wonder if Kid Hyundai could post on this. He is the one who told me about this originally...
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Yes, that's what I am experiencing almost as if the car doesn't want to go into the gear. I just want to know if this is something I need to worry about.
old transmission = grumpy transmission.
im going to cut my shifter and see if it helps my car stop grinding.
my 99 accent has 106k on it now so its either that or replace some parts. which I don't want to do because I want a 2.0 engine in my car with a tib transmission and clutch box.
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im going to cut my shifter and see if it helps my car stop grinding.
my 99 accent has 106k on it now so its either that or replace some parts. which I don't want to do because I want a 2.0 engine in my car with a tib transmission and clutch box.
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Save your money and buy a Quickshifter! The HVE (www.hve.com.au) quickshifters got a modified pivot point so the throw is alot less that stock, up to 60%, and still a lot less the a shortshifter!!!
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Its not just cut the pivot is modifed and so the throw is about 60% less. They then sell it as a complete assembly replacement. Unforunately, the Excel/Accent assembly is full metal, so its kinda heavy. The Coupe/Tib/Elantra/Lantra/Sonata etc are all plastic assemblies.[/quote]</font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=1 id=quote>
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>The Quickshifter price aprox $150.00 US[/quote]</font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=1 id=quote> (old price, our $ is crap, anyway its $215 so it should be just over the $100 mark), <BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Freight $30.00 US. If u send the old shifter back they will credit u on your credit card or by check $30.00 US for each one received back undamaged.
An order 5 or more will get u 5% discount on each Quickshifter
Ten Quickshifter will get u 8% discount on each one.
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Heres from one of my old posts...
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Its not just cut the pivot is modifed and so the throw is about 60% less. They then sell it as a complete assembly replacement. Unforunately, the Excel/Accent assembly is full metal, so its kinda heavy. The Coupe/Tib/Elantra/Lantra/Sonata etc are all plastic assemblies.[/quote]</font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=1 id=quote>
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>The Quickshifter price aprox $150.00 US[/quote]</font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=1 id=quote> (old price, our $ is crap, anyway its $215 so it should be just over the $100 mark), <BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Freight $30.00 US. If u send the old shifter back they will credit u on your credit card or by check $30.00 US for each one received back undamaged.
An order 5 or more will get u 5% discount on each Quickshifter
Ten Quickshifter will get u 8% discount on each one.
Payment can be made by either providing your credit card details or by sending a bankdraft or postal/money order to P.O. Box 178 Ermington NSW 1700 Australia.
Credit card details
Card number:
Expiry date:
Name on card:
Shipping is not a problem with the goods arriving in around 14 to 21 days. You can order by email, letter, telephone or fax. [/quote]</font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=1 id=quote>
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[email protected]?! your 99 has 106k??? where the hell do you drive to? my 97 has 85 and i thought that was alot...
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Wow, my '99 only has 17.5K miles <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>.
As for the grinding, it is most likely your synchros and you will want to have that replaced under warranty.
And I agree with No Frills, a short shifter makes an AMAZING difference.
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As for the grinding, it is most likely your synchros and you will want to have that replaced under warranty.
And I agree with No Frills, a short shifter makes an AMAZING difference.
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Nope a shortshifter shouldnt void ur warrantly, at the very most all it should do is just void it on the shifter itself (Gearknob etc)... Check with ur dealer. Cheers <img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>
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I figure the grinding would be less, because your putting the shifter *right* where you want it and its more accurate. ...But if the reason for all the grinding is the synchros wearing out then i suggest paying more attention to rpms and try double-clutching as much as possible. ...i got my car with almost 63k on it and although i can't help whatever might have been done to it before me, ive been trying to 'pamper' it as much as possible!
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could you xplain to me what the hell is double - clutching...?? I know it's a stupid Q , but please./...
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In this culture of instant gratification, u could go to google.com and type in "double-clutching" <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle> hehe i used to have a site that u could read but i dunno where it is now.
anyway, say your in 4th gear at around 2k rpms, and u wannna really gun it. So u decide to downshift into second. Clutch in, stick neutral, clutch out, blip throttle up to ...i dunno maybe 4500? (should be about 5K more than ur car would be running at in the gear ur downshifting to) so blip throttle from prolly below 2k to 4500, clutch in, stick from neutral to second, clutch out. If ur at 4500 rpm, then hit the clutch and shift, u should be right at 4K when u let off the clutch (or..u should be right at the rpm so that when the clutch is engaged the syncros don't have to do all the work, and ur engine doesn't jump from 2k to 4K all on its own. If you downshift from 4th at 2K to 2nd, ur car WILL compensate, but its rather hard on it. this takes the strain off the car and also makes for a smoother ride.
well thats the general idea. Im in no way perfect or even all that knowledgeable about it, but if thats helps u, then ur welcome <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle> anyway, i would suggest first shifting from say 4th at 3k rpms to 3rd at 4k rpms, just driving stait. try and have constant speed, and try to get the feel so that when u shift from 4th to 3rd u don't feel it, the engine is jsut running higher.
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anyway, say your in 4th gear at around 2k rpms, and u wannna really gun it. So u decide to downshift into second. Clutch in, stick neutral, clutch out, blip throttle up to ...i dunno maybe 4500? (should be about 5K more than ur car would be running at in the gear ur downshifting to) so blip throttle from prolly below 2k to 4500, clutch in, stick from neutral to second, clutch out. If ur at 4500 rpm, then hit the clutch and shift, u should be right at 4K when u let off the clutch (or..u should be right at the rpm so that when the clutch is engaged the syncros don't have to do all the work, and ur engine doesn't jump from 2k to 4K all on its own. If you downshift from 4th at 2K to 2nd, ur car WILL compensate, but its rather hard on it. this takes the strain off the car and also makes for a smoother ride.
well thats the general idea. Im in no way perfect or even all that knowledgeable about it, but if thats helps u, then ur welcome <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle> anyway, i would suggest first shifting from say 4th at 3k rpms to 3rd at 4k rpms, just driving stait. try and have constant speed, and try to get the feel so that when u shift from 4th to 3rd u don't feel it, the engine is jsut running higher.
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