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My POS is in garage where it wont stay running and shakes and spits black smoke when I tap the throttle to keep it going. F'n Hyundai service shop isnt open until monday 7 am. I have less than 2000 miles on it nad have 92 octane in the tank, it's been babied. I am kinda pissed, so much for Hyundai upping their qaulity. Anyone else having problems?


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2000 miles and having problems with black smoke? Uhm, wtf is up with that sh!t...<img src=/images/forums/snitz/oogle.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>


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Good luck, that really sucks! BTW, I don't believe in high octane fuel, unless it's a race engine...I've been a mechanic for 10+ years and driven on nothing but 87... No problem<img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>


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Good luck, that really sucks! BTW, I don't believe in high octane fuel, unless it's a race engine...I've been a mechanic for 10+ years and driven on nothing but 87.
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I wish I had that luxury. My '97 T/A requires 92 and the '96 Elantra is getting nitrous soon, so it will too.


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Whoa. I'm a little shocked. I haven't heard from anybody having real problems with their new Elantra, GT or GLS. Did all this happen suddenly, or did it come on gradually? I feel bad for you, I really do, I haven't had a prob in
7000 miles, but I feel you man.<img src=/images/forums/snitz/eek.gif width=15 height=15 border=0><img src=/images/forums/snitz/disapprove.gif width=15 height=15 border=0> Let us know what you find out, I'm really curious what the dealer service dept finds out...Hopefully just a faulty
sensor throwing off the computer or something. Good luck.


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I'm sorry to hear that man. Hope its nothing major.

I just hope its not a problem like Hyundaixtreme had with his where they put in diesel fuel by accident. Car started blowing out black smoke, and it idled like crap and stalled. Check the last place you fueled up and see if its contaminated with diesel fuel, or they stuck the wrong nozzle in after the dealership checks to see what the culprit could be.


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Sorry to hear about your car there buddy. Hopefully this is just an isolated incident. At least you'll be covered under warranty though. The only problems that I've had so far with mine has been with the fuel cap door (takes a few tugs for it to open) and my front passenger side window, which does not work sometime from the driver's side.
Also, you're just wasting your money by putting in 92 octane gas in your car. It's not gonna do anything good, other than throw money away. Unless the engine specifically needs higher octane, your car is turboed, or has the timing advanced, stick with what the manufacturer says.


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It burns slower, so its kind of a toss up between the 2 whether you put in cheap stuff more often, or expensive less often.

Oh, that wasn't my car. That was another members car.


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<img src=/images/forums/snitz/eek.gif width=15 height=15 border=0> In my experience with my cars when I had a major problem, i.e. it wouldn't start, idling like crap, smoke, whatever, it was always something really simple. But it always had the same effect on me. <img src=/images/forums/snitz/disapprove.gif width=15 height=15 border=0> But when I fixed it I felt great . Hopefully it is something like a sensor. And your car has the warranty so it should be cool.


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I am pretty pissed, I am hoping its just a censor and they will replafce it beacuse I will make them, I will not recet my ecu evrytime it starts doing this **** I will get my money back first, all of it, and buy a 2003 6 cyl Tib if problems persist, oh they dealer can give me new plugs too because those I know are fouled without checking just from looking at the exhaust.<img src=/images/forums/snitz/mad.gif width=16 height=16 border=0><img src=/images/forums/snitz/guns.gif width=33 height=16 border=0><img src=/images/forums/snitz/evil.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>


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Buying higher octane than you need "offers absolutely no benefit. It won’t make your car perform better, go faster, get better mileage or run cleaner. "

http://environment.about.com/library/weekly/blcars3.htm?iam=howstuffworks_SKD&terms=octane


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wrong, it can help reduce knock, better for turbo cars, better in general, may not be worth it, but generally has more detergents(varies by brand) and I have a bif wallet so dont care. my 2 cents, oh yeah has a lower freezing point, I live in wisconsin and it's winter


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mine has 850... hasen't even broke 1000 and the check engine light is on.... i'm taking it on monday 2/4 to check it out... but overall i'm happy... i just hope its a sensor...<img src=/images/forums/snitz/guns.gif width=33 height=16 border=0>


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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>wrong, it can help reduce knock, better for turbo cars, better in general, may not be worth it, but generally has more detergents(varies by brand) and I have a bif wallet so dont care. my 2 cents, oh yeah has a lower freezing point, I live in wisconsin and it's winter<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

The detergents will vary by what brand you buy...usually not by the octane. What you're saying could be true also about higher octane having more detergent, but even still, using higher octane gas than your car manufacturer recommends can actually do more harm than good (i.e. more carbon buildup). Obviously, your car is not turbo'ed, nor is it running advanced timing...and since it's brand new I highly doubt that 87 octane is gonna cause pinging at this point. So to use anything more than 87 is a waste of money. And dude, the comment about high octane gas having a lower freezing point is BS. If you're really concerned about the fuel your car is getting...I would rather spend more money buying name brand gas than no-namers.


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UPDATE: The fuel sensor is bad, and so is the cam shaft sensor....... just computer problems... they have to order parts ans they will be in on Fri 2/8..I hope this isn't an reoccuring thing<img src=/images/forums/snitz/oogle.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>


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Well kids, it's bad, Of the four cylinders I had, one is now dead, not sure of the why or hows, but I will have a rental car for at leaste a week. I am guessing 1-3 wks for thourough tear down and diagnosis and then rebuild. I hope nobody else is going to have to go through the hell that I am about to. Unless they have a great mechanic that car will never run the same again. <img src=/images/forums/snitz/disapprove.gif width=15 height=15 border=0><img src=/images/forums/snitz/eek.gif width=15 height=15 border=0><img src=/images/forums/snitz/oogle.gif width=15 height=15 border=0><img src=/images/forums/snitz/oogle.gif width=15 height=15 border=0><img src=/images/forums/snitz/guns.gif width=33 height=16 border=0>


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Blackelantra GT.... man.... that sucks... i'm starting to question my own now.... Hope it runs good when it gets back<img src=/images/forums/snitz/disapprove.gif width=15 height=15 border=0><img src=/images/forums/snitz/disapprove.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>


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That sucks dude. If it makes you feel any better, someone stole my "GT" badge the day I got my car!!!!!


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Just ask the dealer to give you a new car.
My dealer did it after i threatened to sell my car back and get my money.
Anti-freeze was leaking in my car... my new one runs pretty good though. no problem yet.


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