That sounds weird, any car I owned I had those stock grills removed. For 95-99 models, they come off...they're screwed on to the side door panel, I took them off from behind, and slapped some Infinity components with spacers. Cant believe how cheap they were by putting in 4 inch speakers that had this big ass housing thing just to fill the space instead of putting at least some 5 & 1/4ths in there. <img src=icon_smile_dead.gif border=0 align=middle> <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>