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hey, whats up? I kno its POSSIBLE to drift a FWD car... with proper use of the e-brake and gas and clutch, but it is still very very hard to do...

anyways..can u do it in an accent? anybodies experiences with it? ive never completely tried it (been too chicken of hurting my cars suspension/wheels) but i did have this one night, where quite by accident i was comming around the lefthand sweeping curve at 70mph or so, and i realized i wasn't turning enough, so i sorta over-corrected hard into the turn, and then sorta re-corrected back outwards, and all the weight shifted up onto the front right tire (i was slamming on the brakes also) but when i came to a stop i was in about the possition ud wanna be in to be drifting thru the turn... nose turned more than the turn, and kinda sideways. I dunno if id given it more gas and not have braked so much, and gased an used the e-brake..well i mighta been able to drift!. but anyway..ive also noticed my car wants to get a little loose in the rear end (i dunno why!) but anyway, i do have like-new tires, firestone fr440's 60k rated ..nothin special but they're only a thousand miles old.

anyway..so anybody have anything to add about this?

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I think I ruined the stock tires doing this so much, but on the way in to work, we have what we call the J-bridge.... I usually keep the gas to it throughout the turn and can keep it under control... You can't let off the gas or it will hit oversteer quickly...

I had to replace the rear tires last week, so I don't know if I can still do it, but I don't really want to considering I bought Michelins.
 

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Weight balance in the accent is really front heavy, and drifting in a FWD car you have to lose traction in the rear by using the e-brake and dropping to 2nd-3rd gear and keeping the wheels spinning. But its a super-light car, you can do it if you have practice and good enough technique.
 

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Here in Canada During Winter if u dont use the E-brake for turning you end up in that damm snow bank and look silly <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Ive done it whit my scoupe and its really a great way to learn how your car handle and how it react ...
 

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driving in snow is fun as ****.

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yea, oh, i can't wait till the snow! (thats kinda why i wanna drift now, hehe) but at leat with the snow ur tires don't get hurt any.

theres this movie theater thats still in business..but they made this hot new dolby surround sound one at the mall..so it gets no play anymore. and its ALWAYS empty during the day...espeically a cold winter day after it just snowed. such a fun playground <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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I have done it on numerous occasions. Use the e-brake, or just hit the brakes to hard in a fast corner. I recomend LOTS of practice in open, legal areas like dirt fields or a track. Parking lots if u cool with the owners and the cops.

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I've got an Options video here that has a whole section on drifting FWD cars. It basically says you need to remove as much weight from your car as you can (especially spare tire), get nice grippy tires up front and cheap tires on the back. When you hit the corner you turn the wheel and begin using the e-brake. You have to learn to use the e-brake however, you don't just pull it up and hold it, you have to vary the braking to do it properly.

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what suspension mods do u have skierd? id heard on the same thread on hyundaituner that it's kinda dangerous on stock ride components. and by the way, what would happen if i had spring clamps on? (or rather, u-bolts, i heard they work alot better)

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I can do 180s, reverse 180s, and 90s frt. and backwards! All in an 89 Excel! But not now cause my fuel tank is busted up.<img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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The most reliable way I found to drift in a FWD car was to set the rear dampers at the stiffest setting. Then all you have to do is slightly lift off the throttle and the back end starts to drift out, even on a car with Yokohama A008 road-race tires. But be careful in the wet, as the car will want to spin really easily. I've managed to hang the tail out almost all the way round a circular on-ramp before, just by lifting off the throttle. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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i've already gone through 3 sets of tires hehe
here in the forest around Perth, we have the ball baring gravel which is described by the WRC drivers as driving on ice. it's not hard to slide on that <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle> and this what i learnt to race on at the age of 14 haha
 

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I did it with my Excel a few times. Alot on gravel but I do it on wet pavement. I was turning a 90 degree corner at 30MPH in second gear. As you turn and start understeering you pull the e-brake and the rear will then slide. Let off the e-brake and counter steer in the direction of the turn and give it gas which with pull straight so you don't do a 180. I did this turn on wet pavement getting onto a freeway in the middle of rush hour so there was alot of spectators. Then after I was straight again I goosed it to 60Mph as fast as I could. Road Rage helps you not be scared about stuff :D I hate Rush Hour!

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Its alot easier to do on dirt roads. You can also make your end come out by doing real sharp "S" turns. Make a hard left turn and once your car is in the turn then make a fast right turn and your back is going to come out quit easily. Driving in the snow is alot of fun if you don't have alot of cars on the road. Driving on all season tires sucks when you have to stop at a stop sign and theres a car in front of you. But it sure is fun sliding into your driveway or parking spot by using the e-brake to pull out the back. The best way to practice if you don't want to mess around with your car is use a rental car. Go to some parking lot and play around.
 

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hey 4doorgl, which options video is that? i would be interested in purchasing that one, i have one of the newer ones that i bought in august. it has a road racing comp and a drifting comp. later

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When I test drove an Accent Gsi, it was an automatic, I really had never driven a 5-speed until I drove my new car of the lot, I knew the theory, but theory and real-life are very different. Anyway, I took the auto for a spin and I went up the road to a friend's house to show them the car I was thinking of buying. On the way there, there's a big sweeping right hand turn in a 40 km/h zone. I started around it at 90 or so and just lifted off the throttle halfway around to see what kind of response I would get from the car, the backend stepped out just enough for me to continue powering around the corner with the nose pointed right in along the inside of the corner. I decided right then I was buying that car. Then a few times after that when I was ripping around town I would get off the throttle fast in a turn just so the back end would kick out, it is great fun. I haven't used the e-brake on dry pavement, but I'm sure that would work too, at the expense of rubber turning into smoke. And this winter I am buying Blizzaks, so I will let you all know if that allows for some nice sideways, controlled action in the snow. <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

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And this winter I am buying Blizzaks, so I will let you all know if that allows for some nice sideways, controlled action in the snow. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=1 id=quote>

Blizzaks are just too damned expensive to be messing around with testing lateral motion across the pavement... It's like driving around on pencil erasers...
 

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baaaaaaaaaaaaaack to the future
 

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Drifting, or sliding the car is very easy.

do a yahoo search on whats called a "scandinavian flick"

In the accent, using the E brake is not required to slide the car, depending on conditions. In rainy weather, I can usually still flick it around, but for 1 rated turns I almost always use the E Brake. Also depends on surface - 1 and 2 rated turns on gravel I tend to use it a little bit, 3,4 and 5 rated turns I don't need to use the E brake.

my recommendation is same as Skeird's - parking lots, fields and such are grea learning areas. I also like VERY northern roads where the snow is piled up like 5 feet on the shoulder - if you wipe out, the snow keeps you on the road and it also acts like a buffer to lessen the damage to the car.

I also confirm 4DoorGL - you just can;t yank the E brake, it takes finesse, and ya have to pull it to help, only for a second, and use it again breifly to help if you want to increase the oversteer.

have fun! snow and gravel are the easiest surfaces to slide on. I prefer dry gravel.

-Grimmy
 
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