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ok , i have heard that certian types of headers will come all nice and chromed out but after acouple of miles the start to oxidize or turn a brownish rust color, if anyone could provide any info on this, i would appreciat it.


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That's true. Get them ceramic coated.<img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>


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You are referring to stainless steel headers. They only oxidize and turn purple if you touch them. If they are installed with gloves, they will turn a nice bronze color as they heat up.


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That's true. Get them ceramic coated.<img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>
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How do you do that? Is it like powder coating? Also, when you say "coat them" are we talking about Stainless Steel? TIA <img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>


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Even if you don't "touch" them, they'll still get a rainbow discoloration on them.
If you go to Sharkracing and order the HVE headers, there is a ceramic coating option. It also helps to keep the engine bay cooler by trapping the heat in the headers. Very good investment.<img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>


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zman call a company like hpc coatings and they will give you more info than we could. i don't know a web site or phone number off hand but i will let you know.


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Thanks Rudy <img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>
What do you guys think about those exhaust insulation wraps? IMO they are NO-SHOW, but would they help keeping engine bay any cooler?
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they do help keep the gases cool in your headers and i've seen people wrap their intakes too but i'm not too sure of the effect there.


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I wouldn't recommend using heat wraps on your headers. They do keep things cooler but they also trap moisture against your header causing them to rust. I have also herd (hear say so use Discrimination) that headers can be warped because of the heat. This probably more of a problem with rotary engines where exhaust temps of 1700F are normal. Anyway, bottom line I'd recommend the coating the heeders or just buy the cheap ones, wrap them and just replace them later. They will probably last a year or two.


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How fast will stainless steal rust? and how does moister stay on something that has extremly hot gases running through it long enough to cause oxidation?


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what you have to make sure of its that the ceramic coated ones are stainless underneath cause the aluminized steel will rust where the coating falls off and it will fall off. DC, greddy, you name it. it eventually falls off......thats why we only use stainless. If anyone wants something coated my friend who does our new intakes and strut bars in the anodized look blue and red can also do ceramic type coatings

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