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"Powered by a 2 liter, DOHC MFI 16-valve 4-cylinder inline engine, the Elantra gets off to a good start. The engine is extremely quiet and rather punchy, producing 140 [email protected] 6000 rpm, and 133 lb-ft of torque @ 4800 rpm. Acceleration is good, if somewhat hampered by a horrible manual gearbox. Truly, it's up there with a Skoda I once drove, and that's saying something. Shifting from 1st to 2nd feels like a movement one might make on a trombone, but less secure, with the gearstick wobbling around as much when in gear, as in neutral. Took a bit of getting used to and detracted from the gutsy little engine.

And then there's the handling. Or rather lack-there-of. Pretty pathetic, I have to say. Minimal grip, road holding and cornering ability. Thank god they don't make SUV's. The Independent MacPherson strut front, and Independent multi-link rear axle suspension itself wasn't bad, giving a pretty firm ride, but the chassis could well have been made of 10 different parts, all moving individually of each other given the stability of ride achieved. The power assisted dual diagonal braking system was effective, if lacking in the delivery of a real punch, but did the job with relative smoothness."

That true or is the guy just being dumb?
 

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hrm. i've never driven a hyundai... but if you want to drive a po' boyz' tranny, go try out a VW tranny. i drove my friends soon to be Civic CX hatchback (dont laugh. the CX engine isn't going to be in there for long <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> ) and it pimped my VW tranny. i got back in my car and it felt like i was shifting through a bucket of rocks.

oh well. live and learn. as much crap as people give hondas, they really do know how to make beautiful trannys (ITR/S2k spring to mind)

try driving another 5spd car and comparing. you never know, the guy might be right

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Heh, I've driven a VW....ouch! <img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>. Gotta love the long 3rd gear, hehe.

As for that review, when I drove a 2001 Elantra, it was noticeable slower than the Tibs and the older Elantras I have driven. This may be a downside to adding the additional balancers on the crank. They came a LONG way in smoothing out the ride (it is VERY smooth now), but the acceleration felt it.

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hehe. a short shift kit helps on VW's throw length (i've got one in my car and it helps) but it still doesn't feel like the butta honda trannys.

haha. who knew you could chirp the tires in a 70hp-80ftlbs car. i know i didn't before today. haha. dear god that car was dope (the cx hatch)

maybe some day i'll get to drive a hyundai. who knows! =)

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4door, On the highway how fast can you go befor it bouces and shaking?
 

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VW has a nice tight shifter. What are you guys talking about? Ive driven a few last generation shifters and the shifter was nice a precise. Car had no power...This one is the 2.0 4 cyclinder 8 valve dinosaur I am talking about. Nice shifter, slower then crap.

As far as the Elantra, shifter is decent. New 2001s are a bit more precise. Ride quality is decent in the 2000s. You ll feel the larger bumps. Handling and manuevering is phenomenal though. The problem with some of those reviews are that the testers go in with a negative attitude towards Hyundai. I mean, go look at Edmunds.com review of the Elantra. They gave it big props and they tested it AFTER coming out of a BMW 3 series. In contrast, Automobile magazine gave the Tiburon a terrible review. After I read that, I lost respect for that magazine because they don't know a good car when they see one! As far as the 2001s go, I haven't test drove it yet. I sat in one (It was unlocked at the dealership). So rob is right on with the ride quality

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I have a 2001 Elantra GT. I think it handles pretty well for an average driver. Of course, you cannot compare it to 3 series. I'll be getting bigger wheels with low profile tires and eibach springs. I think that will improve handling.
As for shaking, I went 125 mph in it and it wasn't shaking at all. My car is fairly new (aligned, same tire pressure). If you keep your car in a good condition, it will be very comfortable at high speeds.
 

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yeah. VW's have nice tight shifting, but have you ever tried to shift fast?

i grind the syncros every time i shift agressively (pretty much only when racing) from 2nd to 3rd. not fun. there were races before i got the short shifter where i physically couldn't get the car into 3rd gear. had to back out to neutral, try again. i thought it was my shifting technique. turned out it was VW. not fun. and the VR6's have alot of fun with 2nd gear grind. haha, but that's what you get for buying the "big bad" vr6. =)

the VW trannys are better then they used to be, but they're still ass.

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I guess i can't expect alot from it, its not a sports car.. But i think its a good first step into this import car racing..
 

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when I drove a 2001 Elantra, it was noticeable slower than the Tibs and
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Given that the Tib & Elantra supposedly share the same engine I wouldn't have expected too much of a difference. I know some of the gear ratios are slightly different and, I presume, the suspension setups would differ. So just how much speed difference is there - has anyone raced the two head to head?


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Well, when I drove the Elantra, it was more comparable to my Accent than to the Tibs I've driven.

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4doorGL, did you drive a 2001 Elantra or an older one? Maybe you drove one with 1.8 engine. I have a 2001 Elantra GT with 5 speed. I've never raced a Tiburon but I guess they should be the same. The engine is the same. Elantra is a little bit bigger but the weight is almost the same (2635 lbs Elantra and 2633 lbs Tiburon both 5speed). Tiburon has lower profile tires 195/55 R15 vs 195/60 R15 but I don't think it would matter a lot. And I've heard that gear ratios are different but I don't know the details.
 

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It was a 2001 Elantra GLS.

Like I said before, the engines are not the same. The new engine has more balancers on the crank, which adds more spinning weight to the engine, therefore bogging down its accelaration.

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Figures for 2001 2.0L 5 speeds

Elantra 0-60 9.0sec
Tiburon 0-60 8.4sec

Elantra 1/4 16.8sec
Tiburon 1/4 16.0sec

Elatra Top Speed 115mph
Tiburon Top Speed 115mph

Not alot in it really.

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Try 142mph bud <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> ( i no your talking about stock )

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I hit 125 mph in my 2001 Elantra GT. I am sure it could go even faster. There was no space to go more.
 

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OK-so, what can I do to my 2001 Elantra GLS to help that "extra balancers" thing? Will I have to tear down the engine and have it precision balanced, or can I get that lighter crank pulley that KORE(?) makes..Will that help much? I know that balancing an engine is $$$ and not worth it to me, for this is my daily driver and has only 11k miles almost, lol. I haven't driven the older Elantras. You're saying <i>those</i> are quicker (acceleration-wise)than the 2001? <img src=/images/forums/snitz/eek.gif width=15 height=15 border=0> Damn! he he. What year(s) exactly are you talking about? I was thinking mine had nice acceleration, and I can drive stick very well. <img src=/images/forums/snitz/smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>


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