[Cottonmouth]

I recieved an e-mail in my Hyundai Club of Ontario address that concerned me.

It goes as follows...
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>To: [email protected]
Subject: World Legal Action Against Hyundai
Reply-to: [email protected]




From: Consumer Protect,a group of concerned Hyundai
distributors,dealers and owners.

Dear Sirs,

We have reached an understanding with World Justice and Big Class
Action to file big class lawsuit against Hyundai Motor Company free of
charge on behlf of Hyundai car owners everywhere for commiting mass tort by
falsely inflating engine hp of its cars and for knowingly selling and
refusing to recall its unsafe cars.

To proceed,please register with Big Class Action at:

http://www.bigclassaction.com

or write to:

[email protected]



Yours truly,


Consumer Protect
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

Link

See Korean Transport Ministry announcement concerning Hyundai's false
inflation of enging HP of its cars by clicking:

http://www.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200105/200105200342.html
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I checked out the link at the bottom and it gave me this information...


<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Local Automakers Inflate HP Figures: Ministry



The nation's three carmakers have been involved in inflating power figures for about 41 models in their sales literature and, following a correction order by the government authority in charge recently, have issued new numbers for many models.

According to the Ministry of Construction and Transportation (MOCT) Sunday, Hyundai Motor, for instance, indicated 108 horse power for its passenger model Avante XD (DOHC) in sales literature, but the firm corrected it to 102 hp recently, following the ministry's intervention.

Also adjusted downward were figures for Hyundai's EF Sonata, (G4JP)'s 147 hp to 133 hp.

The hp for Daewoo's Nubira was downgraded to 101 hp from 107 hp and that of Kia's Optima was also lowered to 133 hp from 149 hp.

A total of 15 models of Hyundai have been subject to the correction order, followed by 19 models of Kia and seven models of Daewoo.

(Choi Jang-won, [email protected])
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What do you guys think?<img src=/images/forums/snitz/oogle.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>


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[Mister694]

ummm i say be like mazda with the miata......offer a rebate($1500) on the cars that are affected or give free stuff


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[Cottonmouth]

I think that relaxing the warranty a little bit and allow people to mod their cars if they so desire. Maybe recover some of the hosepower that the dealership sold them.

Sounds fair to me.<img src=/images/forums/snitz/oogle.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>


<hr width=60% noshade size=1 align=left><b>Hyundai Club of Ontario</b>
http://www.geocities.com/cottonmouth_hco/
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[mateus1138]

That sounds really fake...Big Class Ass

Mateus
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[coupe2k]

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I think that relaxing the warranty a little bit and allow people to mod their cars if they so desire. Maybe recover some of the hosepower that the dealership sold them.
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I hope that's true, I need to get printouts or something. Next spring I'll go nuts<img src=/images/forums/snitz/smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>Let 'em try and stop me<img src=/images/forums/snitz/guns.gif width=33 height=16 border=0>

Can't say I didn't wonder about it though. My last car was a 1997 Saturn SC2 (*looks out for RedShark the Saturn hata*<img src=/images/forums/snitz/uhh.gif width=15 height=15 border=0><img src=/images/forums/snitz/wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>) and that was around 120HP and about the same 0-60 as the Tiburon. I know it was lighter, but not much<img src="http://www.fxtreme.org/forums/ubb/dunno.gif" border=0>


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[GreatWhite2k1]

I say, "FREE SUPER CAHGER OR TURBO CHAGER KITS FOR EVERYBODY!" And the clouds parted and gum drops fell from the sky... all was good.<img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>


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[Maxx]

Hmmmm. Inflated horsepower eh?
Random told me the other day that
Elantra often show higher HP than
Tibs on Dyno. I'm not sure if he meant new Tibs or earlier issues,
or both. Random? You there? Chime in buddy, correct me if I mis-heard
ya<img src=/images/forums/snitz/tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>


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[4doorGL]

Actually the Beta motor puts out exactly what Hyundai advertises it at.

The average 5-speed Tib/Elantra will dyno at around 115-120hp to the ground stock. Figure in a very generous 15% drivetrain loss (more like 20%) and you end up with 135-41hp at the crank, which is within acceptable tolerances.

Now, if you figure it with the more likely 20% drivetrain loss, then the car can put down as little as 112hp to the ground and still have 140hp at the crank.


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[MarkHazard]

I went through this with my Mazda Miata. Mazda had claimed 155 HP when it was only making 142. Because of the mass enthusiasm for the car, Mazda graciously offered two options to the owners to avoid a suit. The owner could accept $500 plus free 3 years routine maintenance or Mazda would repurchase the car for whatever the owner had paid for it.
I opted to refund the car because at the time it helped my pocket book. That's when I got the Tiburon. I was able to cut my payments in half and still get a pretty fun car to drive. For a while I regretted the decision, but now I'm glad I did.
Some 'experts' believe Mazda's solutions may have been too extreme. The never really looked or offered a way to recover the lost HP....which is what most people wanted.
If this is indeed true about Hyundai, I hope they handle it right (whatever that may be)..becuase I'd sure hate to go through all that again. <img src=/images/forums/snitz/guns.gif width=33 height=16 border=0>






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[WytchDctr]

that happened to ford... they dnyoed the cobra engine before they ut it in a car... 320.. well when it went in he ehxast pipes didn't fit right so they changed them and when the exhast manifold was mass produced it was flawed... makeing right at or under 300hp... Ford just fixed the problems for Cobra owners.


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