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Does anyone know of a company that makes rods and pistons for the 1.5 SOHC alpha motor. Or will I have to get more custom work done? I am building my bottom end for turbo.


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I'm betting you will need to have them custom built; not even Tiburons have the luxury of off-the-shelf parts for rods or pistons.

Crower is probably the only place you will want to make your rods -- you will need to send them a single "donor" rod so they can check it out and make an exact duplicate.

You can pick your favorite as far as custom pistons go: Arias, HKS, Ross, JE just to name a few. I went with Ross just because they weren't expensive and have a great following among the domestic guys here in ABQ. As I understand it, Arias isn't too expensive either and makes good stuff. HKS is pricey, JE are a bunch of pricks AND pricey, neither is probably any better than what you'd get at Ross or Arias.

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"pricks and pricey"<img src=/images/forums/snitz/laugh.gif width=15 height=31 border=0>


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Actually www.rpw.com.au has pistons and conrods for the Tiburon. They aslo have new aftermarket heads and much more. Their prices are pretty resonable too <img src=/images/forums/snitz/wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>


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RPW is fine and dandy, the problem is they will not directly sell to YOU in North America. They insist you go through Phantom Racing, which:

A. Has POOR customer services
B. Has POOR call hours
C. Has UNIMAGINABLE markup ($400 AU = $230 US, but after markup it's back to $400 US <img src=/images/forums/snitz/mad.gif width=16 height=16 border=0>)
D. Charges out the ass for shipping

I've ordered a clutch from RPW, and while I'm VERY happy with the clutch, it wasn't necessarily worth what I paid for it.

I wouldn't go there if I were you...

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I was planning on getting my 4-1 header from Phantom. It's $230 bucks plus $70 bucks shipping, which is kind of unreasonable, but so far from what I've found is the best buy yet. I do agree with you Red they do have shitty hours, I haven't been able to get a hold of them yet <img src=/images/forums/snitz/mad.gif width=16 height=16 border=0><img src=/images/forums/snitz/mad.gif width=16 height=16 border=0>


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I'd at least ask Dave if I could order direct.<img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0> Yes, they do have pistons and conrods for the 1.5L SOHC. Hell, they sell built 1.5L's.<img src=/images/forums/snitz/smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>


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I was originally going to get my current rods shot peined...but I want the engine built strong to run a decent amount of boost. I am getting the Crank knife edged and balanced...basically the whole bottom end blueprinted. I had the head 'resurfaced'...but I don't think by much. I will get it cc'd to determine how high the compression is..I may have to get a custom head gasket made for lower compression.



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Side question:

Is the guy that owns Phantom Racing named 'Dan'. I forget his last name. If thats the case, I might be of some help.

Thanx


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Side question:

Is the guy that owns Phantom Racing named 'Dan'. I forget his last name. If thats the case, I might be of some help.

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8.5:1 pistons by JE $640

JE Rods $750

no specs yet...just concerned with prices.

Red, how does this compare to the prices that you have?


This is for the tib.

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As usual, JE comes out way more expensive than everyone else.

Ross = $550 for pistons, rings, pins and spiralocks in whatever compression you want -- from 9:1 to 7.5:1

Crower = $675 for the rods INCLUDING shipping.

JE can bite me, expensive pricks.

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As usual, JE comes out way more expensive than everyone else.

Ross = $550 for pistons, rings, pins and spiralocks in whatever compression you want -- from 9:1 to 7.5:1

Crower = $675 for the rods INCLUDING shipping.

JE can bite me, expensive pricks.

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Didnt you say that if you purchase the Ross Pistons you would have to buy rods to accomidate the new Pistons?


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REd, are the Ross pistrons drop in? Or does the cylinder need to be brored out more.


Got a number for any of these dudes?


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Whenever you buy aftermarket rods, ALL of them come with a floating pin. Since the stock rods have press-fit bushings, you have to replace the rods so that you get the appropriate floating-pin bushings.

The pistons require an overbore and I STRONGLY suggest that if you're going to do internal work that you do NOT buy a set of drop-in pistons. We've had that discussion before; overbore provides a LOT more than just a small bit of displacement.

Ross can be reached at (310) 536-0100 and ask for Darius (pronounced Der-I-us)

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I'm sorry, I wrote my last reply wrong...

What I meant to say was: All of the aftermarket PISTONS available come with floating pins. You will need a rod with a floating pin bushing to use with aftermarket pistons.

Unfortunately, the stock rods use a uni-directional press-fit bushing for the pin. As such, you have to replace the stock rod with an aftermarket rod.

That's not entirely accurate however...

If you send the piston manufacturer a stock rod and pin bushing, there's a almost 100% chance they could build a piston and pin set that would fit. You will of course need a stock rod to offer...

As I understand it from Cheuk, the stock rods are good to around 300FWHP so long as you aren't detonating very much. A good set of inexpensive pistons from Ross or Arias along with the stock rods should be a decent combo.

If you're aiming for any more than 300HP I would suggest just buying the aftermarket rod anyway. <img src=/images/forums/snitz/smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>

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We'll be offering the pistons that come with our turbo kit on a separate basis. The pistons will lower you to an 8.2:1 compression ratio and use the stock pin configuration.

The pricing on these is $265 before shipping.


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$265? What are they made of? That sounds more like a Hypereutectic (sp?) material than a forged metal. What is the forging pressure used to build them? I know both the Ross and Arias pistons use a 1000-ton press to build theirs; JE uses a 400-ton press which could still leave impurities and "bubbles" in the metal. Does that also come with the pins, spiralocks and rings?

There's a lot more to pistons than just the final pricetag...

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