Ah, ok. Makes sense.AutoX = Hauling ass around cones in a parking lot.
The reason it would be nice, you don't want your trans up shifting to save gas when your trying to get out of a corner in a hurry.
So, this is a yes it's fine to use the MSG as a standard to downshift for acceleration without hurting it?That's why it's there, so you can pretend to be telling the transmission what to do.
That makes sense. Exactly why I asked. I wasn't planning on doing that on a regular basis or anything, I just wanted to check. Thanks.Unless Hyundai did something different, you won't be able to kill your car outright by being a nut with the MSG, but you can probably significantly shorten its life. The faster your engine is turning when you tell the clutches to engage/release, the more heat will go into them. If you install a transaxle oil cooler (you should anyway) and keep an eye on the fluid and change it when it starts to turn, you will be able to drive it about as hard as it will allow, without doing too much long-term damage (250k miles vs. 265k failure time)
Alright, thanks. And hey, I never said I drive like a nut, the whole reason I was asking these questions is so I could avoid driving like a nut! (As much as I can, anyway)The only other thing I might add is that, if you are going to shift at oddball points under load (heavy accel/decel) you should give the clutches a break and lift off the gas for a moment while it upshifts, or rev-match before it downshifts (as much as you can anyhow). Otherwise, remember it's only a car and a cheap, simple one at that. Keep an eye on your transmission oil and enjoy driving. By the time the transaxle goes, it will probably be pretty cheap/easy to get another one from a junkyard. And hey, if you REALLY drive like a nut you'll roll it long before then so no worries anyhow!
I'm still considering adding the trans-axle cooler. thanks for the words of advice, sero_gravity...well im in canada too, ontario here. i can say that it would be ILLEGAL for your warranty to void such an addition/modification as a trans cooler. only way is if it somehow damaged the transmission and they could prove it. see, dealers always want to take your warranty away. saves the company money when you pay for it. or the real sneaky ones will get you to pay for the repair and then bill it again to the manufacturer to get paid twice.
Interesting set of facts - I realize any damage or modifications that can be proven to cause abnormal wear in components gives the manufacturer the excuse they want to void the warranty.
also, do note that no matter what any stealership says you can get your maintenance done ANYWHERE and it will NEVER void the warranty if the mechanic is a certified mechanic. in fact you can do your own work and then they'd have to prove that your actions somehow caused the damage....but it becomes more difficult because they can argue that you aren't 'qualified'.
Yes, i knew about the maintenance criteria. Since it isn't convenient for me to take a ferry every time I want service on my Tucson, my long-time mechanic here signs the warranty log after performing scheduled service, and lists his BC mechanics license # on the log
ok at 20,000km if you replace the trans fluid i will outright say that you are completely insane. rule 1 with maintenance: check your owners manual. consider doing something different? read it again and don't. the truth is that the specified intervals in the manual are overkill. why? its all statistics. if you replace your oil at those intervals there would be something like a 99.999% chance (or whatever) that your engine will not be harmed. they dont want you coming back with a major issue because they screwed up with the maintenance intervals. that would quickly turn into a class action lawsuit which hyundai would lose. to prevent that kind of thing, you make your maintenance schedule complete overkill.
with your MSG? there's very little difference except the computer is not telling the transmission when to shift, you are. the transmission is still shifting and functioning normally. unless there is some strange issue with that particular trans (ie. design flaw) then it shouldn't matter. if there is and there is a different fluid change interval, hyundai would tell you. failure to do so would be negligent on their part and again it turns into a shitshow of a lawsuit.
thanks for again giving me the confidence to make the maximum use out of the MSG driving through the mountains next month. If you see my original post, I believe I can control shifting better through the mountains with the MSG than the Automatic in "D" which kept shifting up/down up/down up/down constantly with the elevation changes and tight corners
to check fluid here's an old backyard trick that actually does work. first, stick to your owners manual. not less or more kms, just do it. second, pull the dipstick. put some of the fluid on your index finger. it should look a pink/red colour most describe it as cherry red. not brown or black. next smell it. should smell like oil and NOT burnt. if its got a burned smell something is up. next rub the fluid between your fingers, should not feel gitty and should be just like any other oil. if it fails those tests then you may have a problem, usually start with a fluid flush and filter change and go from there. in some cases a cooler may fix it if you're towing for example.
that all makes sense. I want to change the oil (18,000 km interval coming up!) before I hit some challenging roads with the 2009 Tucson. Then later that month, my wife is heading through the BC mountains with the Tucson so a quick inspection of the trans fluid is in order before summer
final word of advice: your warranty is through hyundai NOT the dealer. if in doubt, contact hyundai and NOT the idiot stealers. if they're going to fix it fine, but if they say anything questionable then contact the manufacturer. also remember that there are laws governing what they can and cant do as far as voiding your warranty. know those, not what the guys that have something to gain say.