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Well I got a chance to get down to the drag strip last night. I got 5 runs in...which was actually a lot...usually I only get about 3 in. The thing that I am excited about was my consistant R/Ts... Check em out...

.587, .533 (Wooohooo my best R/T yet), .436 (I faulted...damnit), .537, and .546. How about that for some consistant R/Ts? And yes, I have the slips to prove it...

Here's the other thing...(remember, I was just trying to get my stock times before I add the CAI, and more performance parts, etc) but my 1/4 mile time was 17.800. My question is: How the hell did the people at Car and Driver run a 16.8 in a stock auto?????????? That's a friggen 1 second drop from what I was running. Yes, I tried shifting through the gears, combinations of overdrive being on/off and 17.800 is the absolute best I think that a stock autotragic tibby can do. Trust me...I have ran the track 7 times...each with different combinations of launching in drive 2, low, overdrive off in low, shifting through the gears, overdrive on/off in regular drive, brake torquing...I'm talking everything... I have talked to everyone else that has an autotragic at the track to see what they do, I talked to a guy with a badass mustang who gave me some suggestions as well. You know how I got my best time? *Drum roll please* For everyone who wants to know how to launch an automatic brake torque it while you are staged, keep it in regular drive with overdrive OFF. You wont need to worry about hitting your last gear or redlining it, because you will not get there by the end of the quarter mile. As soon as you see the last yellow light come on, let off of the brake (remember, since you are brake torquing your gas should be mashed to the floor anyways...) and let her go. Take it from someone who was trying to get his best stock times... like I said... I have been trying to get the best combination for the past month. I consider myself pretty educated on this situation now hehehe.

I will be posting my slips on my site as soon as I get home tonight, and I will also be writing up a little How-to race autotragic tibbys for newbies...just so that people won't have to make the same mistakes that I did the first times I got to run my tibby. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Take care all...

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Sure...not for money though...hehehe... <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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It could have something to do with altitude maybe, a run at sea level will be much faster than at higher elevation, well not much faster but 1 second is a possibility
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I was thinking about that earlier...I'm not sure how much Indy is above sea level though...hrmmm...

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If by brake torquing it you mean holding your foot on the brake while your floored on the gas in drive, then I wouldn't doo it too much more. Because what your doing is a torque converter stall. That'll do a number on your torque converter and possibly your trans and motor/transmission mounts<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>. Because the longer you do that, the hotter and hotter the trans fluid becomes, and if its too hot, it can foam up and not provide the lubrication/fluid pressure your trans needs. And if you have the hood up and look at the engine while someone else brake torques it, you'll see the engine move as they give it more and more gas. That is putting mucho stress on the motor and trans mounts. Just giving ya some helpful info.<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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Yep yep...I knew that bud....but that is a good point. The only time I brake torque it is when the first yellow light comes on, that gives me enough time to get my rpms up against my torque converter without boiling the tranny fluid. I just forgot to mention that. Thanks for pointing it out! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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How the hell did the people at Car and Driver run a 16.8 in a stock auto?????????? <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=1 id=quote>
The times C/D put in their magazines are almost always estimated times so dont feel bad. A auto Tibby prob couldnt run that time even on a perfect 1/4 run day. Maybe a 5 spd could but Im not too sure bout that one either. Oh and by the way my 1999 accent runs the 1/4 in 19.5 @ 80 mph, and I was the fastest accent to run at that track so dont feel bad. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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.587, .533 (Wooohooo my best R/T yet), .436 (I faulted...damnit), .537, and .546. How about that for some consistant R/Ts? And yes, I have the slips to prove it...


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JGraham, I thought ya were doin it for longer. BTW, What rpm does it go up to and stay at?? Cuz thats how ya test your torque converter.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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Jgraham...

Don't take this the wrong way, as it is not intended to be offensive. But why did you get an automatic in your Tiburon if you were planning to race it? Anyone that I know that races their cars have a 5 spd. And I don't mean any of those clutchless sticks. I mean a shifter and clutch. Because, I read what you are doing and you can seriously damage the transmission that way. When racing with a 5 spd, eventually you will wear out the clutch but thats only a few hundred to replace....and then you can upgrade to a performance clutch that is designed to handle the abuse of racing. But in autos, you can damage the whole unit costing well over $1000.

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Don't take this the wrong way, as it is not intended to be offensive. But why did you get an automatic in your Tiburon if you were planning to race it? Anyone that I know that races their cars have a 5 spd. And I don't mean any of those clutchless sticks. I mean a shifter and clutch. Because, I read what you are doing and you can seriously damage the transmission that way. When racing with a 5 spd, eventually you will wear out the clutch but thats only a few hundred to replace....and then you can upgrade to a performance clutch that is designed to handle the abuse of racing. But in autos, you can damage the whole unit costing well over $1000.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=1 id=quote>

No offence taken. The truth is...I never intended on racing it at all...because I thought that Hyundai had no aftermarket. Also, I had never heard of Hyundai racing at all. I was just cruising through the lots and happened to see the Tib, and I fell in love with its styling. Also, I live in Indiana, my parents have owned two manual cars before...and they were damn annoying to drive out here. Where I live there are a few hills, and when it gets snowy as hell out here the things are a bitches to drive. I would rather go with ease of driving, and spend a little extra on a shiftronic tranny later on down the line if decide to take it to a different level. Do a lot of people race manual trannys? Hell ya they do...does that mean that there aren't some damn fast automatic races out there? No. Plus, it's not like I am that heavy into racing right now...it costs a lot of money to do that....for me it is just kinda a hobby on the side. If I want to be serious about it, maybe I will drop out the auto and put in a tranny...but I really don't think that I am going to go any higher than taking it to the local drag strip and having a little bit of fun. It's my daily driver. Trust me...I will still get it damn fast, it will just cost me a little more than normal 5sp people. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Hope that clarifies a bit...

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>BTW, What rpm does it go up to and stay at?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=1 id=quote>

About 2500 rpm.

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I see your point. Just one thing though. Once you learn how to drive 5 spd perfectly, you can have a lot of fun with it. Its good to have one car of each. If Im lazy, I ll take my Cherokee which is automatic. If Im in a good excited mood, I ll take the Elantra. But not that many people have that option. But I never thought of previous thoughts. Thats true. You could just be a normal person strolling around, then buy a car that looks good. Then one day while you are driving your new car, see a hooked up version of yours and say "Hey, I want mine to look like that" There you go, your into it now. That is happening to my friend, who just bought a 98 honda accord (like we never seen a hooked up one of those before) <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Your car looks good though. Keep up the nice work

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JGraham may I suggest one inexpensive mod for your car, a tranny cooler. You may have considered this but I've put one on my auto Elantra. I learned the hard way after spending $2300.00 on a tranny rebuild & cooler for my wifes auto Sonata. <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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Hrmmm...tell me more.... :)

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17.80, another way for me to prove my point, automatics SUCK! A 5 speed tiburon stock does it in 16.3! And you have mods. I'd ask for a refund! I am going to the track next week I will post my slips.I have alot of mods I know I will easily pull 15s all night. I raced a acura integra gs-r and beat him, boooyaaaaa!<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>17.80, another way for me to prove my point, automatics SUCK! A 5 speed tiburon stock does it in 16.3! And you have mods. I'd ask for a refund! I am going to the track next week I will post my slips.I have alot of mods I know I will easily pull 15s all night. I raced a acura integra gs-r and beat him, boooyaaaaa!<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=1 id=quote>

Nah man...I ran those times stock. Like I said car and driver had the stock 5 sp tibby doing 16.0 and the stock auto doing 16.8. Whether those were accurate times is the question. I really don't see how I can cut a second off of my time cause those are the best runs that I can make. Now stock ragging on autos...or else I'll have IR2 give you one of these: <img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Matthew and anyone else who thinks autos suck...

It all depends on the driver. Depends how good you are at driving stick to see if you will outrun an automatic. Its how well the driver basically drives the car and goes through the gears. That has a lot to do with it. If you grind your way through, or ride the clutch while shifting too long, then the auto may outrun the car easily. When racing, a driver usually likes to have control over what gears he is in....not a computer assuming when he needs to downshift. only the driver knows what lies ahead. Another reason for 5 spds that no one thinks about is wear and tear. Obviously, racing puts extreme wear on a car. Manual trannys are much easily repaired then autos. In 5 spds, usually the clutch is what goes first. In automatics, the whole automatic transmission unit has to be replaced or rebuilt, which is costly (I know people who have done this...it aint cheap)Now when it comes to sticks, I personally rather have a short throw stick then the long throw in my Hyundai Elantra right now. Just my personal preference. But some cars are better in automatic then stick. I rather have an SUV in automatic. I'm debating of whether to trade my automatic cherokee in for a 5 spd Liberty or not, just because the shifters in SUVs are rough. And I aint racin it...so its a tough call here....<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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