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well I finally got back, and dead tired, but I will tell you this, it was AWESOME, I have lots of pics and more to post, I'll just go and grab something to eat first, if anyone has the results please let me know. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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yea i want the results too, i didnt get to see all the hyundais but i did see a few. madd people and cars there.

I drive a bumble bee
 

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Cool,can't wait to see the pics of the rides <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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Why didn't you get 1st place?... <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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<img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle> I don't know, many are telling me the same thing, I'm ok with Shaun winning, but Shane, I don't know, we all saw that tibby...

there were 4 things which hurt me I feel:

1- Judge got there 2 early
2- TV was down
3- no NOPI sticker
4- not perfect paint

but like I said before, I'm happy with what I got, and that's kewl, it got KORE noticed, and my tibby more at the UR Booth... so I'm kewl <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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Yes you are!... <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>
And I know what you mean by the judge being there too early. Remember, we were JUST starting to clean our cars and she was there.

I don't mean to flame Shane or anything, but hydraulics on a Tib is a no-no.
 

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don't get me wrong I'm kewl with Shane too, it's just like you said, I feel as that being a no-no on a tib without going into other major modifications like 2lo is doing, his tib is worthy all around, not just for 1 or 2 mods, when others there had way more, me included...
 

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That's exactly my point. I do believe that show wasn't fair, but I am sure that next year, they will have no excuse not to give you the right prize.

I still don't get it why #3 though... <img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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i love your car yuri and everything but i have one question...why do you guys think shanes car wasnt worthy of 1st place? he had things that noone else there had, therefore making his stand out the most...

air bags
cf hood (i know 3 of you guys had them)
body kit (i know 3 of you had one too)
supercharger

im just saying his car stood out a little more than anyone elses did, i think it was fairly judged. and yes i am sad no kore cars go first but there is alot of shows out there. maybe i took your reply wrong but i took it as you were bitter because shane won, if thats not what it was then i am sorry i still love you yuri <img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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na man, see this is the way I see it and I understand it, yes he had airbags and s/c and a front skirts, yes he stood out, and I personally think it's ok, because I know that if they're would have been a WILD class he would've taken it so therefore by him winning first on MILD it's ok...

it's just that that's it, I mean, how and why should 3 MODS ok they're major ones, but why should something like BAGS and S/C be enough to take down anyone that has more than 3 mods, and I don't mean just 1 outside the car, 1 inside the motor and 1 under the car...

The whole point is that a show car or a show winning car has found most or all of the ways of tuning a car, which means INTERIOR/EXTERIOR/ENGINE BAY/UNDERCAR??? isn't this correct... This is why once again I will use 2LO's car as an example, 2LO understands what it takes to win shows and I'm sure he will agree with me on the point I'm trying to make...

he's not only putting airbags on it, he's going all out with interior/engine bay/etc., that's why his car is considered top in my book, yes many including me don't like airbags on tibbies, but he didn't stop at that...

I still love all you guys even if you don't see my point, and Shane I'm sorry it's not that I'm majorly dissing your car, I'm dissing the way the judging was done, I think it should've counted all around look inside and outside and # of mods found for a car that you hardly find any for, and it doesn't seem it went that way... I just feel things like that should be considered...

nope Rudy I'm not bitter, I'm happy with my 3rd place, hello it's 3rd place at NOPI NATIONALS why wouldn't I be happy, I'm just stating an opinion which many have asked me, why didn't I take 1st or 2nd... I gave my opinions and not stayed quiet that's all... and in my opinion there were other tibbies that had more worked done to them, like Jessicas or even the blue one from TeamSr...
 

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thats understandable, i can see where you are comming from, but you have to remember number of mods doesnt always mean you have the better car. you also have to consider how well the mods are carried out and cleanliness etc etc etc.

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yep, my point exactly, I wasn't even talking cleanliness man but you just said another good point there, and you saw all the engines there and interiors, now you give me an opinion on his compared to all other tibbies...

And about # of mods not saying you have the best car, you are correct, <b>UNLESS</b> your mods work and are shown in a clean and very nice way, yes or no??? even Dan said it himself, "the s/c belt is not even connected..." sorta like when summer was running 2psi on her turbo everyone said it was for show only...
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>you also have to consider how well the mods are carried out and cleanliness etc etc etc.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=1 id=quote>

Exactly. In order for a car to win a prize, everything as a whole has to be presentable. You cannot expect to win a competition having only "sick" add-ons and the vehicle is not taken care of. The entire vehicle has to look like it's worth #1.

Again, you have to understand that I am not trying to put anyone ahead of anyone, but explain what fair judging means.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>air bags
cf hood (i know 3 of you guys had them)
body kit (i know 3 of you had one too)
supercharger<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=1 id=quote>

So, basically, the only thing he had different is the air bags, right? That makes absolutely no difference. I could look at it from a different point of view. Batlord had a very nice body kit and nice audio set installed. And I think the presentation of those overall, was better.
 

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he also had a supercharger. but what i am saying those are 2 things that noone else in the hyundai class had, which made his car stand out even more. thats what the judges look at. you can have the flashiest car in the world and get beat out by a very clean jdm looking car. that's also why shaun took 2nd place b/c he was the only tib there with full body graphics, thats 1 thing that noone else in the hyundai class had. and yuri got third because he didnt have anything that noone else had but his car was very clean and presentable. now do you guys see what im saying?

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>1- he also had a supercharger. but what i am saying those are 2 things that noone else in the hyundai class had, which made his car stand out even more...
2- and yuri got third because he didnt have anything that noone else had but his car was very clean and presentable<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=1 id=quote>

1- so you're saying that if I put something that noone in this world knows about, just 1 thing, in a clean car, then I will win? is that fair, when others have spent over 5k on their car?

2- sorry man, tell me that everyone had all the engine mods and all the interior stuff I had...

Noone is challenging Shaun's yes his car was clean and had graphics, this is not a ME AGAINST ANYONE thing, we're trying to see why the judges judged how they did, I'm sorry, the points that I listed of what I feel hurt me, is more belieavable than someone having a more cleaner and more mods car than me Rudy, so you lose that one, I'm sorry... just please, how about we stop naming names as to the other cars, I want to get more into the judging, I wish 2lo would get in this one...

2 LO where are you?

in case you missed them Rudy:

there were 4 things which hurt me I feel:

1- Judge got there 2 early
2- TV was down
3- no NOPI sticker
4- not perfect paint
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>so you're saying that if I put something that noone in this world knows about, just 1 thing, in a clean car, then I will win? is that fair, when others have spent over 5k on their car?
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with that said it goes to the judges like you said. maybe the judging wasnt fair, i wasnt in it so i wouldnt know, maybe the judges went mostlyo on mods. but i do see what you were saying about your car but i dont know if it would have made a huge difference. jessica has a tv in her car but she didnt place, small things like that catch the eyes of judges but dont stop them in their tracks.

i didnt notice your paint at all maybe it was just me or maybe you just noticed it cause its your car (thats how i am). i cant comment on the judging too early either, once again b/c i wasnt involved.

also i never said shanes car was cleaner i said it had more mods. i used cleaner as a reference.

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ok more mods? like? please tell me, maybe I missed something...

Me:

<b>KORE Auto-CAI
KORE SS Cat-Back
KORE Performance Wires
KORE Front Strut Bar
KORE Rear Strut Bar
B&G Springs
SR 4-2-1 Headers
Apexi S-AFC
A/F Phantom Gauge

Appearance Mods

KORE Front Bumper
Wings West Sideskirts
TC Spoilers CF Hood
Custom Painted Gauge Pod
ADR's RS 2000 Rims
205/40/17 Toyo Proxes
Shark Spoiler
Vitek Engine Braid Kit
Blue Silicone Hoses
SR Clear Corners w/blue bulbs
SR White/Blue Gauges
Aftermarket Antenna
Painted Parts:
Custom Dash(blue)
Door Panels(blue)
Rear Speakers(blue)
Calipers(blue & silver)
Misc. engine parts

Audio Mods

Kenwood Excelon Series
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KVT-910DVD
(with the following:)
6.5" LCD Screen
TV Tuner & Antenna
CD player
DVD player
am/fm radio tuner
Touchscreen
Remote
Accepts CD-R's and CD-RW's
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Kenwood 6"x9"'s
Kenwood 4- 10" Tornado
Kenwood 2 Channel Amp
Kenwood 4 Channel Amp
Custom Vinyl setup in trunk
Plexiglass Logos
Blue Neons</b>
 

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So those are Batlord's mods, different than anyone in the group.

Everyone has had an original mod to their vehicle, so if everyone is different, don't you think that presentation matters in that sense?
 
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