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wtf so after we got done replacing the clutch we neeed to align the front end. i started at 8:30 this morning and adjusted to all hells end. i got the wheels aligned so it seemed, the steering wheel was straight but STILL the car pulls to the right no matter what i did. it confused the hell out of me until i thought of something and sure enough, i was correct.

the REAR wheels are out of alignment. sure enough i go check them and both rear tires point to the left of the car (the passenger side moreso). causing the car to drift around and pull to the right constantly.

but looking at the setup, there is nothing to adjust!!! how can this be corrected or is the only way to fit all new control arms??? none look bent or damaged but the tires sure arent straight...

any ideas guys?? :puzzled:
 

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yeah ive been doing my alignment by eye since i got my camber bolts installed and they came loose 10 min after paying $60 for the alignment. and the transmission has been out so many times i just keep doing it myself by eye. after we put the steering rod and shock back together on his elantra the wheel was even more crooked than it was before (he was slighly out of align before and now it was almost 1/6 turn of the steering wheel off). i mean i got the front end to track straight and parallel but the RRwheel is probably like 3* out of whack. is there any way to adjust it???

and it may take 5-10 tries to get it right but it only takes like 90 seconds to jack up the front end and loosen the nut and screw the arm in or out, then you test driev it around the block and know wether you need to take it more or less, drive back into teh driveway with steering wheel straight and you will be able to look down the wall of the tire and see if it is aligned with the rear one. its really not as bad as one would assume, i am very certain that if i had an alignment check by a shop it would be at least within the 1 or 1.5* error sloppy service standards anyway.

i just am wondering about the rear end mang.
 

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Well if you don't mind going through tires. Youc an get it close by eye but never near perfect. The problem with doing it by eye is that if you are off by just a bit you will get uneven tire wear.

as for the rear. Has the car ever been in an accident for you to suspect a bent control arm?
 

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the way i drive, i just replace the tires every summer regardless of what i do. and i use my 13's in the winter with snows but they didnt wear down hardly at all last winter, except the one that blew all teh tread off of the belts :nervous:

well he is the second owner and got it from the dealership, he himself hasnt hit anything yet (which is surprising really) except for swiping a concrete block with his front bumper. but looking at the rear suspension with the car raised there is no visivle damage marks or anything bent at all.

so theres no way to adjust the rear toe at all? that sux... maybe one lonely weekend we can take the rear end apart totally and measure the arms for tolerance differences.
 

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what year is the elantra. this is what it shows on webtech for a '01 elantra

REAR WHEEL ALIGNMENT
TOE-IN

NOTE
Adjust the toe-in by turning the tie rod end of the rear suspension arm.

Left tie rod : Clockwise direction : ton-in

Right tie rod : Clockwise direction : toe-out

A variation of toe by a rotation of the tie rod : About 6mm (0.6°)


The cam bolt should be adjusted to a maximum of 90° left or right from the center position.

CAUTION
After adjusting the tie rod, tighten both nuts to the specified torque.

Specified torque :

50-60 Nm (500-600 kg.cm, 37-43 lb.ft)



 

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sorry my bad its an 00. and theres no tie rods for adjustment but it would be interesting to comapre the lengths and connections of those rods and maybe they could fit on the 2000 because it does look similar its just a solid beam and no tie-rod.

hmmmm :rambo: thank you for the info bud :D
 

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Well if you don't mind going through tires. Youc an get it close by eye but never near perfect. The problem with doing it by eye is that if you are off by just a bit you will get uneven tire wear.

as for the rear. Has the car ever been in an accident for you to suspect a bent control arm?
Have you ever wondered how they did it before electronics?
 

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I know this is a really old thread but it comes up when other people search for things as well... I just wanted to leave information behind because it has been personally useful and may or may not be to others as well..

A1 auto has a video on youtube ya'll will want to watch, "how to preform wheel alignment yourself" it couldn't save you back in the day when this was posted but may or may not be useful here on out... Sorry, I was born yesterday...


They basically use a string line, tie a string to something that can be adjusted or left in place (like a jack stand) from end to end of the car, in front of the front tires and behind the rear, measure off of the center of the both wheels so it's parallel with the hubs and then measure the distance from the front of the tire and back of the tire to adjust the toe in or toe out... I think the tires are supposed to be toed in up to 2/32" but only by a small fraction. This helps to track the vehicle in a straight line at high speeds. They found that when the wheels were perfectly straight the car would track left or right when the wind blows at high speeds. As I've been told... But feel free to fact check before you use such.. And bring your findings back to the forums hehe.
 
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