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Originally posted by i8acobra
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If you MUST have 13" rotors, you can look at Combo "E". It comes with two-piece rotors and 6 piston calipers for $1850. So, you can get one-piece rotors with 4-piston calipers for $1700, or two-piece rotors with 6-piston calipers for $1850. Or, you can do like me and get the 11.75" two-piece rotors with 4-piston calipers for $1300.
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1300? that sounds like a really good deal, once you get em on your car, i definatly wanna check them out.

i know installing some pads with stock rotors will kill ya pretty quick but about how long (normal daily driving in vegas, or similar scenario) will the pads/rotors last?
 

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Originally posted by i8acobra
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Originally posted by OneandOnly1
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Hey cobra and fixer, I'm getting 18"x7.5" TE37s with +40 offset. Do you think those will clear a 14" (355mm) big brake kit w/ 2-piece rotors and Wilwood 4-pot calipers front and back? It's from Precision Brakes. I hope so... so scary... :??:
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If you install 14" rotors on the front without upgrading the rears to at least 12.5", you're going to have serious brake lockup problems. The fronts will be doing all of the work.
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Well with a proper proportioning valve he'd be alright.

14 inch rotors. :hmmm:
 

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Originally posted by i8acobra
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If you install 14" rotors on the front without upgrading the rears to at least 12.5", you're going to have serious brake lockup problems. The fronts will be doing all of the work.
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Cobra, read my post again bro. I am getting 355mm 2-piece cross-drilled rotors w/ 4-pot calipers on the FRONT and BACK. So the lock-up will not be an issue. ;):
 

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Have you considered the amount of rotational mass you'll be adding at each corner? If this is for pure show, go for it, but if you're thinking it'll give you performance gains I think you're sadly mistaken.
 

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Originally posted by hyundaiFixer
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funny....my calipers weigh more then my wheels. I have to weigh the stock and Rotoras to see what the differance is...I dont see the rolling mass getting way outrageously more.
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What? So your calipers weigh 20 lbs each or something? LOL :nervous:
 

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Originally posted by hyundaiFixer
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funny....my calipers weigh more then my wheels. I have to weigh the stock and Rotoras to see what the differance is...I dont see the rolling mass getting way outrageously more.
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Rotational inertia is mass multipled by distance from the axis of rotation. A 10 pound 14" rotor will be harder to accelerate and decelerate than a 10 pound 10" rotor. A 20 pound 14" rotor will be MUCH harder to accelerate and decelerate than a 10 pound 10" rotor.

Not to mention the effect of caliper & rotor on your unsprung weight numbers.

[Edited by qtiger on Apr 5, 2003 8:25 AM]
 

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BTW, if you put 4 piston calipers on the front and rear without upgrading the master cylinder to one with the same stroke, but a larger bore, you'll have to "pump" the brakes up everytime you try to stop. Not good. The stock master can't move enough fluid to push all of those pistons.
 

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If they're made to work with the stock master, then the internal volume must be about the same as the stock calipers. So, other than the advantage of the longer lever created by using 14" rotors, you're not getting much of a performance benefit. Although you have more pistons, they're going to be much smaller than stock. So, your brake pads will be longer, but narrower. You might see a small increase in swept area, but not much. You'll also see a small benefit from spreading the force across the pad more evenly. Don't get me wrong, you'll see better stopping distances than with the stock brakes, but not as much as with a set of brakes made for high-performance use. I'd say, for the price, they're probably worth doing just for looks, especially if you're looking for show points.
 

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I have Rotoras on my Tib. I bought the second set of them from Roadrace Motorsports. There is no way would ever go back to stock. The price is outstanding considering the alternatives. I have had other cars with other brake kits like Wilwood and these are better. They are more like a full racing brake except for the fact that they are one piece rotoors. For street use no one is going to heat cycle their brakes enough to need 2 piece rotors. The look of them is just a perk. Very nice looking
 

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With 15 years of road racing and rally experience, I can tell I helped Rotora develop these brakes. They are as good as Stoptech in performance characteristics. Like fallguy said only real difference is one piece rotor which is irrelavant for hi performance street use. You would never know the difference. I could sell Wildwoods but refuse to deal with it. These brakes are superior and a value at $1690. Yes I am bias because I sell them but trust me I could sell Wilwoods or Brembo or whatever. These brake offer the most bang for the buck.

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Fall Guy and Bigrock, I know they're good quality. What I'm saying is that if someone puts these on the front and rear of the car, they're going to need to move more brake fluid than with the stock brakes unless the internal volume of the piston wells is the same size as stock. This requires a new master cylinder. Also, nobody needs 13" brakes on the front and rear of a street driven Tib. This is why I suggested the lighter and smaller PB kit.
 

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Understand the engineering you describe but stopping power is increased also through larger frictional area (pad size.) My tibby stops as good as an EVO 8 (Big Rotor and 4 pot Brembos)with them.

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