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2000 Hyundai Elantra GLS (Photochop)
-PIAA 1100 series driving lights
-PIAA Plasma Headlights
-10" Pioneer sub powered by Kenwood 600 watt amp
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2000 Hyundai Elantra GLS (Photochop)
-PIAA 1100 series driving lights
-PIAA Plasma Headlights
-10" Pioneer sub powered by Kenwood 600 watt amp
Do a search on the VSS Limter, which is behind yuor dash board. Its a simple procedure.
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NM I'll save you the trouble
( REMOVE NEGATIVE BATTERY TEMERIAL)Aight This is how you remove you VSS Limiter. You have to take out your intsurment panel first. There are two screws that are visible right above your panel, youll need a philps screw driver but not a long one because the steering wheel sometimes gets in the way. make sure your steering wheel is moved all the way down. then un screw the screws. next there are two screws on the buttom of the panel, but you cant see them unless you lift up that little flap of soft covering right above your steering column.unscrew those two screws. Now you can pull your black peice out. next you will see. 3 more screws. one on top and 2 on buttom. onscrew them and place them to the side. no pull your intsurment panel out slowly. look behind it because you can olny pull it out so far. there should be 3 wire clusters or wire harneses. carefully pull them out. remembering were they went before. ok next is kinda tricky if you look at your panel you took out there are black and clear clipy things that hold the Plastic see thru casing over the panel itself. becarefull and push these down one at a time and pull apart so u dont have to come back and do it over and over. Once this is complete you can get to your speedo Take off the black interface carefully and also take off the two little black peices. dont take off yout speedo face or gas and temp gages. Now turn your panel over. youll see a little black clyder like dives sticking out about a inch high. there should be two screws on the opisite side of eachother and then two little screws lined up next to each other going in a up and down way . undo these little screws ( all 4 ) and you speedo will come out make sure your going this on the ground or something so it dont fall and break!. It almost happened to me. Ok this is REALLY tricky I hope you have GOOD eyes cuz it took me a little while to find it cuz I did know wat i was looking for. the little glass tube is about "------" that long it looks like a fuse kinda. and its connected to a little circut board. Youll have to unscrew to little screws to get it off, mine were on the left side of the speedo. ( Remember I have 1997 Manual transmission. But im sure its all the same **** ) after you unscrew those screws you VSS limiter will be history just pull out the circut and thats all folks! put the two screws back in and put your vss somewhere. i just chucked the thing in my ash try ( I dont care ). put your speedo back into place and screw the screws back in snugly. place you black small interfaces on and put your big interface back on. Snap your clear cover back on the panel. Reconnect your 3 clusters. Put you panel back rescrew the 3 screws. place you black panel cover thingy back in and screw the buttom two first then the top two. Readjust your steering wheel. Start your car up and see if you have a check engine light on.If its not on yet it will be after you hit a certain speed or rpms. Keep in mine there are THREE speed sensors or govenors on your car. VSS, Tranny, and RPM, You took out the easy one. Go test you car somewhere but please becarefull. I was doing 135 like nothing down my dead freeway 215 its faster than it seems. So please drive safe and away from others Happy racing !!!!
<hr width=60% noshade size=1 align=left>Your death is comming on swift wings, and I am the rider.
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( REMOVE NEGATIVE BATTERY TEMERIAL)Aight This is how you remove you VSS Limiter. You have to take out your intsurment panel first. There are two screws that are visible right above your panel, youll need a philps screw driver but not a long one because the steering wheel sometimes gets in the way. make sure your steering wheel is moved all the way down. then un screw the screws. next there are two screws on the buttom of the panel, but you cant see them unless you lift up that little flap of soft covering right above your steering column.unscrew those two screws. Now you can pull your black peice out. next you will see. 3 more screws. one on top and 2 on buttom. onscrew them and place them to the side. no pull your intsurment panel out slowly. look behind it because you can olny pull it out so far. there should be 3 wire clusters or wire harneses. carefully pull them out. remembering were they went before. ok next is kinda tricky if you look at your panel you took out there are black and clear clipy things that hold the Plastic see thru casing over the panel itself. becarefull and push these down one at a time and pull apart so u dont have to come back and do it over and over. Once this is complete you can get to your speedo Take off the black interface carefully and also take off the two little black peices. dont take off yout speedo face or gas and temp gages. Now turn your panel over. youll see a little black clyder like dives sticking out about a inch high. there should be two screws on the opisite side of eachother and then two little screws lined up next to each other going in a up and down way . undo these little screws ( all 4 ) and you speedo will come out make sure your going this on the ground or something so it dont fall and break!. It almost happened to me. Ok this is REALLY tricky I hope you have GOOD eyes cuz it took me a little while to find it cuz I did know wat i was looking for. the little glass tube is about "------" that long it looks like a fuse kinda. and its connected to a little circut board. Youll have to unscrew to little screws to get it off, mine were on the left side of the speedo. ( Remember I have 1997 Manual transmission. But im sure its all the same **** ) after you unscrew those screws you VSS limiter will be history just pull out the circut and thats all folks! put the two screws back in and put your vss somewhere. i just chucked the thing in my ash try ( I dont care ). put your speedo back into place and screw the screws back in snugly. place you black small interfaces on and put your big interface back on. Snap your clear cover back on the panel. Reconnect your 3 clusters. Put you panel back rescrew the 3 screws. place you black panel cover thingy back in and screw the buttom two first then the top two. Readjust your steering wheel. Start your car up and see if you have a check engine light on.If its not on yet it will be after you hit a certain speed or rpms. Keep in mine there are THREE speed sensors or govenors on your car. VSS, Tranny, and RPM, You took out the easy one. Go test you car somewhere but please becarefull. I was doing 135 like nothing down my dead freeway 215 its faster than it seems. So please drive safe and away from others Happy racing !!!!
<hr width=60% noshade size=1 align=left>Your death is comming on swift wings, and I am the rider.
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Sh!t, I might have to go to the dealer and get a update on that information, hence, HST doesnt have any at the moment, Hold on to your seat, I'll get back to you on it.
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<hr width=60% noshade size=1 align=left>Your death is comming on swift wings, and I am the rider.
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I checked with the hyundai dealer about it, He was being a ass and wouldnt let me see the parts manual. He said there was no limiter in the dash of that car and it was all one unit. Which I do not believe, if it is not in the dash, then it's on the tranny. I have yet to learn about how to remove those types of limiters.
<hr width=60% noshade size=1 align=left>Your death is comming on swift wings, and I am the rider.
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Newbie here... just bought a brand new 2002 Elantra GLS 5-speed last night.
I thought the limiter was 122, could have sworn I read that in Car and Driver... not that I thing Mag stats ar complete concrete evidence etc..
I think I might investigate in to this myself, but I will wait until it's broke in at least before I carefully tear into it.
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2002 Champagne Elantra GLS 5sp
2001 Black Grand Am GT sedan
Edited by - Mike222002 on 02/03/2002 6:12:21 PM
I thought the limiter was 122, could have sworn I read that in Car and Driver... not that I thing Mag stats ar complete concrete evidence etc..
I think I might investigate in to this myself, but I will wait until it's broke in at least before I carefully tear into it.
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2002 Champagne Elantra GLS 5sp
2001 Black Grand Am GT sedan
Edited by - Mike222002 on 02/03/2002 6:12:21 PM
different areas have different speedo limits, also the 2002 is different than the older ones so the limiter thing may not work, ALSO what the hell are you doing past 120 any how huh? <img src=/images/forums/snitz/smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>
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different areas have different speedo limits, also the 2002 is different than the older ones so the limiter thing may not work, ALSO what the hell are you doing past 120 any how huh? <img src=/images/forums/snitz/smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>
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never probbably will go over 120, but the stock Mich. tires are H rated meaning safe up to and including 130MPH... It would be nice to know the car can reach that. I personally hate limiters, I think car MFG's sould just build the car, and put tires on it that match its normal drag or gear limited top speed! My old Grand Prix SE had a limiter set to 108!! THAT was completley unacceptable!!
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2002 Champagne Elantra GLS 5sp
2001 Black Grand Am GT sedan
different areas have different speedo limits, also the 2002 is different than the older ones so the limiter thing may not work, ALSO what the hell are you doing past 120 any how huh? <img src=/images/forums/snitz/smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>
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never probbably will go over 120, but the stock Mich. tires are H rated meaning safe up to and including 130MPH... It would be nice to know the car can reach that. I personally hate limiters, I think car MFG's sould just build the car, and put tires on it that match its normal drag or gear limited top speed! My old Grand Prix SE had a limiter set to 108!! THAT was completley unacceptable!!
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2002 Champagne Elantra GLS 5sp
2001 Black Grand Am GT sedan
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how come the tibs dont have limiters??? mine gets up to 130.....has anybody actually gotten up to that speed??? to see if there is actaully a govenor there??? is it just in the gls or is it in both the gls and the gt ?
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how come the tibs dont have limiters??? mine gets up to 130.....has anybody actually gotten up to that speed??? to see if there is actaully a govenor there??? is it just in the gls or is it in both the gls and the gt ?
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Honestly I don't even know if my 2002 GLS has a limiter, I had previously understood that the Tib had a limiter of 125 according to Car and Driver (car mags are nice but info is frequently inaccurate), I am just taking people's word for it that mine has a limiter on it. Perhpas it has to do with the tires... I heard in later 2001 Kumo's AND Michilens were used, so are the Kumo's H rated like the Michellens? (sp?)
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2002 Champagne Elantra GLS 5sp
2001 Black Grand Am GT sedan
how come the tibs dont have limiters??? mine gets up to 130.....has anybody actually gotten up to that speed??? to see if there is actaully a govenor there??? is it just in the gls or is it in both the gls and the gt ?
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Honestly I don't even know if my 2002 GLS has a limiter, I had previously understood that the Tib had a limiter of 125 according to Car and Driver (car mags are nice but info is frequently inaccurate), I am just taking people's word for it that mine has a limiter on it. Perhpas it has to do with the tires... I heard in later 2001 Kumo's AND Michilens were used, so are the Kumo's H rated like the Michellens? (sp?)
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it might be possible thatthere is a limiter...but i always thought it might have to do with the drag coefficient....the only way is for someone to get out and od it....!<img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>
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your cars can be drag limited, gear limited, ecu limited, etc etc. The auto 99/00 tibs and elantras were limited to 119 or 125 mph, now on H rated tired thats almost right to the limit of saftey but at least inside it. Guy don't try to get past 130 on H tires please , the feeling of having your tires loose grip is not nice and trust me it's dumb to. If you want to get past the limiter remember to change your tires first.
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your cars can be drag limited, gear limited, ecu limited, etc etc. The auto 99/00 tibs and elantras were limited to 119 or 125 mph, now on H rated tired thats almost right to the limit of saftey but at least inside it. Guy don't try to get past 130 on H tires please , the feeling of having your tires loose grip is not nice and trust me it's dumb to. If you want to get past the limiter remember to change your tires first.
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I never would exceed the speed rating on the tire however, I STILL want to know if I have a limiter on my 2002 5-speed Elantra. A limiter of 127 or so is reasonable, 115 is not, H rated means safe up to an including 130MPH. Still like I said, I probbably won't take it past 120 anyway more than once in it's life with me, if at all. But it would be nice to know. With my old Grand Prix SE, 108 was the limit and THAT is unreasonable, I had H rated tires on the car but it <i>did</i> come with cheap ass S rated tires (110MPH) originally.
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2002 Champagne Elantra GLS 5sp
2001 Black Grand Am GT sedan
your cars can be drag limited, gear limited, ecu limited, etc etc. The auto 99/00 tibs and elantras were limited to 119 or 125 mph, now on H rated tired thats almost right to the limit of saftey but at least inside it. Guy don't try to get past 130 on H tires please , the feeling of having your tires loose grip is not nice and trust me it's dumb to. If you want to get past the limiter remember to change your tires first.
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I never would exceed the speed rating on the tire however, I STILL want to know if I have a limiter on my 2002 5-speed Elantra. A limiter of 127 or so is reasonable, 115 is not, H rated means safe up to an including 130MPH. Still like I said, I probbably won't take it past 120 anyway more than once in it's life with me, if at all. But it would be nice to know. With my old Grand Prix SE, 108 was the limit and THAT is unreasonable, I had H rated tires on the car but it <i>did</i> come with cheap ass S rated tires (110MPH) originally.
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what i'm saying of course is that you already have rims and some zr tires on there....no way would i push it over the limit!! i might be crazy but i'm not stupid!! <img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>
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