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hmmm.... so where to start? first off, i suppose i was deemed the "bad guy" from the whole "i got a ticket" post. please allow me to clarify the matter immediately. one of the last replies stated that i was out of line for what i posted. how so? are there double standards here? to the best of my recollection, it was stated that this forum was a place to "let off some steam". so yes, ir2000 girl did indeed let off some steam, BUT the problem was that it came off in a very negative, and dare i say "hostile" manner, toward the police. i'm sure this message board wouldn't allow for the deragatory brow beating of lets say any ethnic faction in the united states (i.e. hispanics, african-americans, irish-americans, etc. al.) but somehow we deem it perfectly acceptable to trash the police. granted they sometimes SEEM to cause us grief, but one after the other, people just chime in like lemmings and suddenly everyone's up in arms over something that has nothing to do with them in the first place.

here's my point:
i know i don't post a lot on this message board, but i DO check it every day, as i firmly believe in supporting the Hyundai community. i also know that many of you have friendships on different levels and tend to feel protective of each other, which is good. i did NOT intend to offend anyone with my original post. i just wanted to "flame" and perhaps help everyone to realize that perhaps their aggression was perhaps a bit misdirected. there was nothing more to it than that. HOWEVER, when a condescending reply to my post was posted, (HERE'S THE IMPORTANT PART): i simply stated that i was replying to the original post logically, and due to the fact that no one wanted to be logical in this particular case, that i wouldn't bother responding anymore. (in other words, i retracted from trying to state my point). to my surprise, instead of letting it go, i was responded to in a very immature and mean fashion. so, if it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander. it just seems that in the end, i was perceived as the perpetuator of this whole ordeal.

i do not thrive on hostility or drama or anything like that. on the contrary, i am a very passive person by nature. i did not expect for this all to turn out the way it did. if i offended ANYONE, i offer my sincerest appologies. i just hope that everyone can understand my point of view and if not agree with it, at least accept it.

i look forward to perhaps getting to know everyone a little better here at HP.

take care all, and once again... i'm sorry.

chris

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just curious how all this is the abolition of your constitutional rights?

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>any ethnic faction in the united states (i.e. hispanics, african-americans, irish-americans, etc. al.) <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=1 id=quote>

you forgot Asian.......
just lettin you know....

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Um...Let me see here.....
How was I being "hostile" towards the Police officer??? The only thing that you could possibly be considering hostile was the word [email protected]@rd. But I doubt that too many people are gonna stand by you on that one.

I said the cop was a [email protected]@rd.
Did I say I was gonna pull out my big gun and shoot his brains out?

NO! I said nothing of a violent nature.
So I wasn't being hostile. I was mad!
I didn't need you coming in here, and judging my Flame, especially since YOU WEREN'T THERE.

Whoa!!! And then I was playing with you and called you a nerd innocently, and you comeback by posting sexist remarks about me?

What the hell kind of a man are you? Can't you take a joke???

Damn. You are talking about how your rights were violated???
After you violated mine sexually???

I didn't even deserve what you posted about me, and you have to admit that... <img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>

The impression I am getting from you so far, and <b>Please, correct me if I am wrong</b>, is that you are a sexist pig. Especially after seeing you refer to me as "IR2000 Girl".
What does me being a girl have to do with it??? Are you mad that A Girl Is Moderating your a$$ on HP.com??? Which by the way, You should know since you "Stop by all the Time".

But, I'm not trying to be on un-friendly terms with you. But I do not put up with people that put down females in the manner that you did. What would your Mother think if she saw that??? That would break her heart. I'm sure she didn't raise you to disrespect women.

Anyway, If I'm wrong about you, let me know so that we can resolve this whole matter and be cool with each other.
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Just remember everybody, the Flame forum is exactly that. You're going to hear things said about that you might not be able to handle. How to take it is up to <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>.

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Just remember everybody, the Flame forum is exactly that. You're going to hear things said about that you might not be able to handle. How to take it is up to [:D
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That is true, but sometimes if things are said that are totally disrespectful, and undeserved, then it is wrong. Example: I called him a nerd and then I was returned with sexist comments. I do see a problem with that. If I had called him a Bastard, then yeah, I would have been asking for it.
Anybody see my point???

This has gone WAY overboard, I am willing to forgive and forget this CHRIS, if you are willing to appologize directly TO ME.

Even if you don't appologize.....

CHRIS, I am sorry for how I replied to your first post. I was a little upset that you were judging my Flame, and you didn't even know exactly what happened. So, Once again, I'm sorry.<img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>

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i'm sorry. i did not realize that the term "girl" was so offensive. i did not (and still don't) know your first name. i did see the name "godess" on all of your posts and therefore played the odds and assumed that you were indeed female. if this was taken in an offensive manner, then i do appologize for that. as far as my being a sexist pig is concerned, perhaps you should ask for a personal reference about me from the local shelter for battered and abused women. i volunteer there. or if you don't find them credible enough, you can contact the NJ Anti-Classism Organization Freehold Chapter. i'm not looking to pat myself on the back here, but i do want to let you know where i stand on those issues. i am very politically active, and do perhaps tend to voice my opinion a little too freely. i understood that you were upset over the unfolding of events that you encountered that night with the police, but my SOLE intention in replying to your post was not to "judge" you in any way, but instead to perhaps diffuse some of your concern over the matter with a third person point of view. i wasn't saying you were either right or wrong, all i was saying was that there are two sides to every story. i am very sorry that this went as far as it did, but in closing i do want to post the following:

i DO NOT tolerate sexism, classism, prejudices of any sort, or ignorance.

as far as the "asain" reply to this post, may i add:

asian
philipino
cambodian
scottish
danish
german
italian
vietnamese
canadian
ecuadurian
icelandic
russian
polish
french
swedish
hawaiian
brazilian
chilean
puerto rican
mexican
portugese
mediterranean
native american
indian
and many many others that fail my memory at this point.



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IR2, CHRIS. Its squashed. Anything else, take it outside amongst yourselves. Leave the other 800 members of it <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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I am locking this!!!!
Hows that for an abolition of constitutional rigts?

Everyone has a right to there opinion and the mods and admins have a right to lock and deleate posts. I will leave this one up here to get the message out but will deleate any other posts that are directly related to this topic or the one it is refering to. If you want to know why it is because it has been beaten to death over the last couple of weeks and also just because I CAN!!!!

On a final note cause I like to get the last word<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>
IR2 was pissed about getting a ticket as would any of us be. She simply came out here to vent in a constuctive manner instead of doing something stupid. Her original post was not out of line nor was it in poor taste in way.

It is now over and done and thats the final word cause AUTOBOT says so!!!!

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