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Shadohh: turbo hooks up in line with your CAI
Shadohh: its not hard
Shadohh: it slaps in the middle of your cai



huh?? is that right? i am told i need a t25, bov, injectors, fuel pump, vortect fuel management, piping (custom made myself) boost guage, turbo timer (explain this please) intercooler, yeah, that should about be it...

and have a bud of mine do it all for me... run 11 psi boost, is it as simple as that??
 

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It's A LOT harder than that.

It doesn't hook up in the middle of your CAI. Your CAI will be obsolete when you get the turbo in.

Wait till the meet, they you'll be able to see Random's car (it's turbo) as well as about 500 other turboed cars at SEMA.

BTW, Mr. Son from Champion Auto is bringing one of their turbo manifolds along with him to show us <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>.

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hehe, sweet, I can't wait to get down there. I hope I can move before then. Everything is getting wrapped up here... just need some more cash and info on those apartments... i found out that they are like a hop skip and a jump away from the afb...
 

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Just to explain the turbo timer.

Its not an absolute must, but some people find it useful.
The purpose of the timer is that when you park up the timer allows the turbine to gradually slow down after the engine has been switched off. This helps to preserve the longevity of it.
Turning the engine off after the turbo is spooled up doesn't do it much good. Alternatively, when you park you can sit in the car for 30-50secs with the engine idling to achieve the same effect.

(Something along those lines anyway)
 

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You can also buy an auxilary water pump. Some of the audi's have these. They keep running coolant throught the turbo for 50 seconds after you shut off the engine.

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The Turbo Timer is there to keep the turbo turning and the oil flowing through it so the oil doesn't coke up around the turbin shaft of the turbo therefore extending the life of the turbo.

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I was being very general to you ravdav, but you can basiclaly have a CAI, thou the turbos gonna make it hot rather quickly, so the purpose of having a cai is gone.

I was just trying to make the idea of how a turbo connects to your system simple, and I was lazy I did not feel like typing out a big ass explanation.

http://www.turbotechnics.com/turbo/turbowork.htm

that might be of some help to ya.



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Shadohh-

Your grasp of the concepts is a tad twisted. A CAI is a good idea on ANY car using ANY method of induction, normal, forced (Turbo/supercharger) or Nitrous Oxide.

When you compress air you heat it up based on a forumula that is pressure/compression based, not tempature based.

Thus, if you use a CAI and suck in 75 degree air, and the turbo heats it up 75 degreees, you have 150 degree pressurised air for the intercooler to cool down.

Converversly, if you try to just put a filter in the engine compartment, and suck in 200 degree air, your intercooler now has to cool 275 degree air.

The cooler the air you feed the turbo/engine, the more power you will make. That simple. A CAI is still a good idea for a turbo.

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Brutha Random I gotta disagree with you a bit on your last statement. The air in a turbo is heated to roughly the same temp whether or not you infuse cold air or not. Any cold air you shoot in a trubo is negated once it is compressed.

If a CAI was useful on a turbo system then why is it that folks like Kubo and Papadakis leave the turbine opening untouched?
 

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Brutha Random I gotta disagree with you a bit on your last statement. The air in a turbo is heated to roughly the same temp whether or not you infuse cold air or not. Any cold air you shoot in a trubo is negated once it is compressed.

If a CAI was useful on a turbo system then why is it that folks like Kubo and Papadakis leave the turbine opening untouched?
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#1, Kubo and Papa are 100% Race engines, they don't even use AIR FILTERS! They are going for MAXIMUM HP, not reliability.

#2. yes, turbine compressor's heat up air based on a forumula that is intake air/compression = outlet compressed air temp, thus the colder the intake air, the colder the air will be after it is compressed. Check corky bells' turbocharing book.

Also, most racers use water/air intercooler which are much more efficent that air/air intercoolers, making intlet air temp not as important.

However, for a street driven car, it makes a BIG difference. With my current setup, I can measure intake air temp, temp after the turbo and before the intercooler and air temp after the intercooler. For the short time I ran with my filter in my engine bay, my temps were easily 50 to 25 degrees hotter across the board vs using a CAI with the turbo.

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I have a friend he owns a performance shop and he is selling me a turbo. don't really know what kind or much about it. what i want to know is if it does fit will it be efficient and would want to run an after cooler. Where can i get more information on runing a turbo on A 2k1 tib. and learn more about forced induction.

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never mind, i guess reading "is!!" really fundamental. lol

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I have a friend he owns a performance shop and he is selling me a turbo. don't really know what kind or much about it. what i want to know is if it does fit will it be efficient and would want to run an after cooler. Where can i get more information on runing a turbo on A 2k1 tib. and learn more about forced induction.

I feed my Shark honda's for breakfast!!
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Maximum Boost by Corky Bell would be the best place to start.

Check out this thread.
http://www.teamsr.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=15&t=000093



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