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I was pondering throwing a turbocharger or a supercharger on one of my tibbys and wanted to get some idea of the performance boost I could expect? I know the HP and torque shoot up, but how much acceleration do you actually gain?

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If you go with the methanol injected turbo from McIntyre you'll be Corvette fast... Dunno times though...sorry <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

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From what I've heard, the McIntyre/Dragon Fabrications turbo will put you in the area of 300hp, but I don't know of anybody other than them that has it yet.

I do know (with dyno proven facts) that the Alpine turbo system will give you ~225hp at the wheels at 10psi with an intercooler (included in the system).

The Dragon Fabs kit will run you about $4500 installed while the Alpine kit will run you about $3000 installed.

Alpine also has a supercharging kit that puts out similiar numbers.

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Hey guys does either kit come with anything to strengthen internals/seals or are they just kits for turbo/piping/connectors/intercooler?
 

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Neither kit comes with any internals, however they both <i>claim</i> to be able to run on stock internals with no problems.

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HEHE *claim*
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ok i have a custom built turbo kit in my 97 tibroun.everthing internal is performance to build up the turbo (headers,innner cooler ect) and im even running with nos. i could never ask for a better car.turbos add more horse power then super chgs.<img src=icon_smile_kisses.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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Yup, a turbo is more "tuneable" as you can adjust boost pressures a lot more easily. However, this can also get you in trouble if you boost too much on a stock block.

With a supercharger, you have to pull all the belts off, then change the pulley, then put all the belts back on, just to raise or lower your boost <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>.

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TiGgEr,
The Alpine kits come with a metal spacer that goes between the block and the head of the engine to reduce compression.
 

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I'm planning on doing the turbo kit From Alpine, Does this kit need to be installed by a pro? I'm good with the tools and I've done a good share of upgrades on my cars. If you should get it done how much am I looking at for something like this?
Thanks Erik

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ImportChick,

Internals refer to the integral components of the engine block, "inner coolers" are not an integral component of the block.

Pistons ($400+ for a set), rods ($675+ for a set), and other such equipment are considered internals.

If you *do* have a full set of internals, then you are able to run a whole lot more boost pressure than you are right now. I would assume you simply have a full compliment of turbo components bolted on, and if kept cool, the stock internals will likely deal with it.

The methanol injection system that McIntyre sells is supposedly capable of delivering 300+HP on a 100% stock block... The only reason they can pull this off is because of the methanol system keeping detonation out and the piston crowns and cylinder head combustion chamber surfaces cool.

I will likely look into a methanol injection system after I'm tired of running "only" about 20 pounds of boost. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> And I figure, at that point, I'll probably need subframe braces to keep the car from breaking in half. <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Um......
my cousin tells me if i soup up a 4 cylinder car (which happens to be a tiburon) i could very possibly blow one of the cylinders very easily.....is that true......???

P.S. I wanna see the new 2002 Tib and see what its all about...
 

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It depends on how you describe "souping up"...

If you bolt on an intake, overbored throttlebody, reworked intake manifold, strap on a tuned header and full exhaust, throw in a cam or two, an upgraded ECU, a new ignition system, a 4-puck racing clutch, and have the cylinder head ported and polished... Well then, you still wouldn't blow a cylinder.

If you strap on a 250HP shot of nitrous, you'll forcefully shave the ringlands off most (or all) of your pistons. This would be a "Bad Thing"(TM)

If you want this car to produce any more than about 225 horsepower at the tires (which given the losses of this transmission, means your engine is building between 240 and 250HP) the internal motor components will need work.

Pistons are the first thing to die in this motor, mostly due to detonation from hotspots from the casting errors in the crown. A set of JE dished pistons can be purchased for about $600, Endyn is also making boost-dependant pistons for less money, however they're not finished and they DO require aftermarket rods.

After about 300HP at the tires, the stock connecting rods will fatigue. Either torsional force will create stress cracks right below the pin bushing, tensile loads will create a longitudinal crack down the center, or simply too much power can bend them in the middle. Crower will build a set of Tiburon / Elantra 2.0L rods for $667 plus shipping.

The very bottom end of the motor is nearly indestructable at currently-attainable power levels. The crankshaft is forged billet steel, and we've never recorded a crank failure at engine output as high as 575HP; the crank main bearings don't seem to complain either although wear rates are a bit faster at that level. The crank main caps are also girdled stock, so vibration is minimal and as such main bearings still live a long life at high RPM's.

The other weak spot in these motors is the HLA system in the cylinder head. Due to the nature of micro-hydraulics, they are very fragile when dealing with high RPM's. Without having the entire head re-cast with solid lifters and appropriate supporting equipment, the redline of this motor likely shouldn't exceed 8000 RPM's if you want any of the HLA's to survive.

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I was thinking about going down to a local shop in jax Fl ( speedcraft ) and getting a custom turbo for my 98 tib, do you think it will be better than the alpine or dragon? Will it give more hp or less?
 

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Garat t3 or t4, hks intercooler, hks wastegage, turbo timer, boost controll, Im not to sure if the intercooler is hks or not. But I think it might be, but dont hold me to that
 
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