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Anybody know what is better for the 1st generation tibbi as far as output and wear and tear on the engine? I hear the turbo kits give problems. what about a different manufacturer for a turbo kit. Also, where can I find a supercharger kit?
 

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Turbos are quicker than super chargers But they are harder to install. Phaton makes a turbo and supercharger.

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There is no lag on the alpine kit, but it doesn't make much HP as delivered either. You get the kit for $1900, but expect to spend another $2000 to $3000 to get it installed and running right.

For the Alpine supercharger, expect to spend $1300 for the supercharger, $500 for the install, and about another $500 to get it running right.

CAPA in austraulia makes a SC kit, and I think they can do a turbo as well...

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Would it be correct to say that a supercharger requires less maintenance and thus would be a safer choice for a daily driver?
 

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Im lucky i guess, cuz i am not paying for the install, my buddy does it all for free....and no he is not a hack. to prove it he has a civic, with turbo and is running mid 13s, and also has yet to run it with both the turbo, and the nos. so i am lucky. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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I'm getting the Alpine SC mainly because I want power....but not an insane amount. I'm more for show....but laying the smack down out on the streets is fun too. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Plus I have always loved the sound that SC's make over turbo's. (No offense to the turbo owners) <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>


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<b>Got Show??</b>
 

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The alpine SC really doesn't make much/any noise. It is barely noticable as not stock, even with a CAI.

The turbo on the other hand...that makes noise!

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The alpine SC really doesn't make much/any noise. It is barely noticable as not stock, even with a CAI.

The turbo on the other hand...that makes noise!

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Actually, I bet to differ. I LOVE the way SC sounds when it takes off. Chris H has a SC and it sounds amasing. I would get a SC over turbo anytime, because it has power (not crazy power), cheaper and easy to maintain.
 

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Turbos are really hard on the low end of an engine. I would go with the supercharger and yes most superchargers are less to mantain. Thats why you see more superchargers on planes <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>. They provide consitant boost. So go with the super. p.s. i like the sound they make too <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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Silky, he was referring to the Alpine S/C which Yamaneko has, not S/C's in general.

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Duh!... I should have read it more carefully. Sorry, I am just tired.

But anyways, SC sound nice then. <img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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For the Alpine supercharger, expect to spend $1300 for the supercharger, $500 for the install, and about another $500 to get it running right.
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Actually I emailed Alpine a few weeks ago and they quoted me $2200 for the SC. Theyre based in South Africa so shipping will cost ya a bit too...and I think you may be underquoting the install...probably a bit more than $500...but I guess it depends on who installs it...as far as which is better...Turbo is more efficent by using hot exhaust gas to create energy as opposed to a belt-drivin s/c...both have their pros and cons...neither is good for your engine no matter what manufacturers of these devices say...yes they make your engine more efficent, but you pay a price in terms of mechanical wear for that efficency...well thats my 2 cents...anyway here's the email i got from Alpine Developments:<P>

<P ALIGN="CENTER"><A NAME="s1content" target="_blank"></A><FONT SIZE="5" FACE="Arial Black"><b><u>ALPINE
DEVELOPMENTS SUPERCHARGER SYSTEM FOR HYUNDAI TIBURON</u></b></FONT></P>
<P ALIGN="CENTER"><FONT SIZE="5" FACE="Arial Black"><b><u>UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA</u></b></FONT></P>
<P ALIGN="CENTER"><FONT SIZE="5" FACE="Arial Black"><b><u>QUOTATION
& SPECIFICATIONS</u></b></FONT> <br></BR></P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">The Alpine supercharger
system is supplied complete with fitting instructions and can be installed
by any motor mechanic or persons who have a good understanding of the
automobile engine.</FONT> <br></BR> <br></BR></P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial"><b><u>KIT COMPOSITION:</u></b></FONT> <br></BR>
</P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">The fully engineered
Supercharger System consists of the following:</FONT> <br></BR>
</P>
<UL TYPE="DISC">
<FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial"><li></FONT><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">EATON
MP 45 SUPERCHARGER</FONT></li>
<FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial"><li></FONT><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">CAST
ALUMINIUM INLET MANIFOLD</FONT></li>
<FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial"><li></FONT><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">CAST
THROTTLE BODY ADAPTOR</FONT></li>
<FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial"><li></FONT><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">SUPPLIMENTAL
FUEL INJECTOR CONTROLLER (UNICHIP AND</FONT></li>
</ul>
<ul><P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">SUPERCHARGER MODULE)
PLUS EXTRA INJECTOR</FONT>[/list]
<UL TYPE="DISC">
<FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial"><li></FONT><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">FUEL
REGULATOR</FONT></li>
<FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial"><li></FONT><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">SPARK
PLUGS</FONT></li>
<FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial"><li></FONT><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">SUPERCHARGER
BELT</FONT></li>
[/list]
 <br></BR>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">PLUS ALL PULLEYS, NUTS,
BOLTS CLAMPS, BRACKETS AND FITTINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO CARRY OUT A
SUCCESSFUL INSTALLATION.</FONT> <br></BR> <br></BR></P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial"><b><u>PRICING:</u></b></FONT> <br></BR>
</P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">1) Supercharger System:   <b>USD
2250.00</b></FONT></P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">2) Freight based on airport
to airport basis: <b>USD 275.00 to 300.00</b></FONT> <br></BR>
 <br></BR></P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial"><b>PLEASE NOTE: </b>
Prices quoted are current and are subject to change without prior notice.</FONT> <br></BR>
</P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">Please advise state and
city so that we may obtain a fixed freight charge.</FONT> <br></BR>
 <br></BR></P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial"><b><u>PAYMENT:</u></b></FONT> <br></BR>
</P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">This can be done by means
of electronic bank transfer or by credit card (Visa/Mastercard/Amex).</FONT> <br></BR>
 <br></BR></P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">Page 2…/</FONT> <br></BR>
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<P ALIGN="CENTER"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">Page 2</FONT> <br></BR>
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<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial"><b><u>POWER & TORQUE
OUTPUTS:</u></b></FONT> <br></BR></P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial"><b><u>RPM     HP    FT/LBS (Torque)</u></b></FONT></P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">1500     48     168</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">2000     65     173</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">2500     88     186</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">3000     118     208</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">3500     140     211</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">4000     154     205</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">4500     166     195</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">5000     185     196</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">5500     193     186</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">6000     213     184</FONT> <br></BR>
</P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">All quoted power and
torque figures were taken from our own Tiburon, on the rolling road
dynamometer in our fitment center in KwaZulu Natal South Africa.</FONT> <br></BR>
</P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">For any further information
that maybe required, please feel free to contact us, or to view picture
and power graphs please refer to our website </FONT><A href="http://www.topgear.co.za/Alpine-Developments" target="_blank"><FONT
COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE="3" FACE="Arial"><u>www.topgear.co.za/Alpine-Developments</u></FONT></A> <br></BR>
</P>
<P ALIGN="JUSTIFY"><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">Tel Nos: -27 31 700-2240  Fax: -27
31 700-2298</FONT> <br></BR> <br></BR></P>
<P><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial">Regards,</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE="3" FACE="Arial"><b>GAVIN O’LEARY</b></FONT></P>
 

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I would not believe alpines HP claims. Of the 2 Apline supercharger installs that I know of.

1 is at 142 HP the other is at 159 HP.

The 159 HP also has headers, different cams and full exhaust.

If they are actually selling the SC for $2200, it better come with a guarantee of 200 Hp to the wheels like they claim.

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heh..i'll send them an email and ask if the tib they used on their dynamometer was stock (yes THEIR dynamometer <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>. And yes, they quoted me $2250 for the kit and $275-$300 for shipping <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> <--thats what i said

2001 Cobalt Blue Tib
Package 5:
Leather
Fog Lights
CD/Cassete Player
Rear Wiper
Kitchen Sink
 
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