turbo vs. supercharger

97tibbi · Oct 24, 2001

Anybody know what is better for the 1st generation tibbi as far as output and wear and tear on the engine? I hear the turbo kits give problems. what about a different manufacturer for a turbo kit. Also, where can I find a supercharger kit?

Lantra · Oct 24, 2001

Turbos are quicker than super chargers But they are harder to install. Phaton makes a turbo and supercharger.

Silly Ricer, Hondas are for kids!

WytchDctr · Oct 24, 2001

I know that a supercharger loses some of the power it creates. You have to drive that belt.. But beware of turbolag...

WytchDctr

Lantra · Oct 24, 2001

There will be no turbo lag with a 1.8L and alpine turbo kit. its too small.

Silly Ricer, Hondas are for kids!

Random · Oct 24, 2001

There is no lag on the alpine kit, but it doesn't make much HP as delivered either. You get the kit for $1900, but expect to spend another $2000 to $3000 to get it installed and running right.

For the Alpine supercharger, expect to spend $1300 for the supercharger, $500 for the install, and about another $500 to get it running right.

CAPA in austraulia makes a SC kit, and I think they can do a turbo as well...

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WytchDctr · Oct 25, 2001

Dang.. thats cool. Would i avoid lag if i turboed my 1.6? Its even smaller

WytchDctr

coupe2k · Oct 25, 2001

Would it be correct to say that a supercharger requires less maintenance and thus would be a safer choice for a daily driver?

TurbochrgedTIBBI · Oct 25, 2001

Im lucky i guess, cuz i am not paying for the install, my buddy does it all for free....and no he is not a hack. to prove it he has a civic, with turbo and is running mid 13s, and also has yet to run it with both the turbo, and the nos. so i am lucky. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Visionz · Oct 25, 2001

I'm getting the Alpine SC mainly because I want power....but not an insane amount. I'm more for show....but laying the smack down out on the streets is fun too. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Plus I have always loved the sound that SC's make over turbo's. (No offense to the turbo owners) <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Random · Oct 25, 2001

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The alpine SC really doesn't make much/any noise. It is barely noticable as not stock, even with a CAI.

The turbo on the other hand...that makes noise!

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SilkySpinZ · Oct 26, 2001

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Low-

The alpine SC really doesn't make much/any noise. It is barely noticable as not stock, even with a CAI.

The turbo on the other hand...that makes noise!

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Actually, I bet to differ. I LOVE the way SC sounds when it takes off. Chris H has a SC and it sounds amasing. I would get a SC over turbo anytime, because it has power (not crazy power), cheaper and easy to maintain.

BUDDER6 · Oct 26, 2001

Turbos are really hard on the low end of an engine. I would go with the supercharger and yes most superchargers are less to mantain. Thats why you see more superchargers on planes <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>. They provide consitant boost. So go with the super. p.s. i like the sound they make too <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

4doorGL · Oct 26, 2001

Silky, he was referring to the Alpine S/C which Yamaneko has, not S/C's in general.

<img src="http://www.hyundaiperformance.com/upload/4doorGLSig.gif" border=0>

SilkySpinZ · Oct 26, 2001

Duh!... I should have read it more carefully. Sorry, I am just tired.

But anyways, SC sound nice then. <img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>

GhostWerm · Oct 27, 2001

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For the Alpine supercharger, expect to spend $1300 for the supercharger, $500 for the install, and about another $500 to get it running right.
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Actually I emailed Alpine a few weeks ago and they quoted me $2200 for the SC. Theyre based in South Africa so shipping will cost ya a bit too...and I think you may be underquoting the install...probably a bit more than $500...but I guess it depends on who installs it...as far as which is better...Turbo is more efficent by using hot exhaust gas to create energy as opposed to a belt-drivin s/c...both have their pros and cons...neither is good for your engine no matter what manufacturers of these devices say...yes they make your engine more efficent, but you pay a price in terms of mechanical wear for that efficency...well thats my 2 cents...anyway here's the email i got from Alpine Developments:

<A NAME="s1content" target="_blank"></A>ALPINE
DEVELOPMENTS SUPERCHARGER SYSTEM FOR HYUNDAI TIBURON
UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA
QUOTATION
& SPECIFICATIONS 
The Alpine supercharger
system is supplied complete with fitting instructions and can be installed
by any motor mechanic or persons who have a good understanding of the
automobile engine. 
KIT COMPOSITION: 

The fully engineered
Supercharger System consists of the following: 

<UL TYPE="DISC">
<li>EATON
MP 45 SUPERCHARGER</li>
<li>CAST
ALUMINIUM INLET MANIFOLD</li>
<li>CAST
THROTTLE BODY ADAPTOR</li>
<li>SUPPLIMENTAL
FUEL INJECTOR CONTROLLER (UNICHIP AND</li>
</ul>
<ul>SUPERCHARGER MODULE)
PLUS EXTRA INJECTOR[/list]
<UL TYPE="DISC">
<li>FUEL
REGULATOR</li>
<li>SPARK
PLUGS</li>
<li>SUPERCHARGER
BELT</li>
[/list]
 
PLUS ALL PULLEYS, NUTS,
BOLTS CLAMPS, BRACKETS AND FITTINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO CARRY OUT A
SUCCESSFUL INSTALLATION. 
PRICING: 

1) Supercharger System: USD
2250.00
2) Freight based on airport
to airport basis: USD 275.00 to 300.00 
 
PLEASE NOTE: 
Prices quoted are current and are subject to change without prior notice. 

Please advise state and
city so that we may obtain a fixed freight charge. 
 
PAYMENT: 

This can be done by means
of electronic bank transfer or by credit card (Visa/Mastercard/Amex). 
 
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POWER & TORQUE
OUTPUTS: 
RPM HP FT/LBS (Torque)
1500 48 168
2000 65 173
2500 88 186
3000 118 208
3500 140 211
4000 154 205
4500 166 195
5000 185 196
5500 193 186
6000 213 184 

All quoted power and
torque figures were taken from our own Tiburon, on the rolling road
dynamometer in our fitment center in KwaZulu Natal South Africa. 

For any further information
that maybe required, please feel free to contact us, or to view picture
and power graphs please refer to our website <A href="http://www.topgear.co.za/Alpine-Developments" target="_blank">www.topgear.co.za/Alpine-Developments</A> 

Tel Nos: -27 31 700-2240 Fax: -27
31 700-2298 
Regards,
GAVIN O’LEARY

Random · Oct 28, 2001

I would not believe alpines HP claims. Of the 2 Apline supercharger installs that I know of.

1 is at 142 HP the other is at 159 HP.

The 159 HP also has headers, different cams and full exhaust.

If they are actually selling the SC for $2200, it better come with a guarantee of 200 Hp to the wheels like they claim.

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GhostWerm · Oct 28, 2001

heh..i'll send them an email and ask if the tib they used on their dynamometer was stock (yes THEIR dynamometer <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>. And yes, they quoted me $2250 for the kit and $275-$300 for shipping <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> <--thats what i said

2001 Cobalt Blue Tib
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Fog Lights
CD/Cassete Player
Rear Wiper
Kitchen Sink

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