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Rudy · Jun 18, 2001

This is a warning too all of you, dont be stupid like me

last year when i firest got my car i got a set of 16" focal r3's (this is when i first started tuning any cars) and had a ghetto rice shop mount them. well i had really bad wheel shake and balancing problems for the year to pass. well everytime i took my car to a shop they told me the same thing balance and align so i wasted the money and it never worked. well as time went on my knowledge became better and i began to realize the real problem that was causing the wheel shake.the rims had the wrong offset on them and it was screwing alot of stuff up (the rice shop put spacers on the front tires which didn't help much either but i had no way around that at the time). about a month ago the cheap-o tires where replaced by a set of nitto nt450's which i payed good money for. while i'm at the beach last week, i didnt straighten out my tires and my friend looked at them and the front two tires were completely bald on the inside (month old tires). now i know i drive alot but not enough for them to wear out like that. so to make a long story short, the spacers and the large offset were completely throwing my camber off and my wheels were bascically riding on the inside of the tires and not flat. so now i have no choice but to rake up another $1k for a new set of rims (not complaining b/c i wanted new ones anyway) but it is just an inconvenient time. hopefully you will all heed my warning and check the offset before you get your wheels. now im out 200 for 2 front tires and i need to find new rims.

for those curious i'm looking at inperio m-05's in white or motegi mr7's in gun metal, i have to check the offsets on them first though. +40 on a 7 inch wheel is what you want

if anyone knows where i can get wheels for cheap let me know.

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Rudy · Jun 18, 2001

this is the part of the day where i contradict myself and feel like a complete dumbass

well i just checked and the focal r3's are in fact a +40 offset as are the motegi mr7's (yay) the inperio's are +43

now i'm baffled because i am confused as too why this could be so. well i am off to look for more answers.

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lerz · Jun 18, 2001

I've been trying to get a straight answer on offset for rims as well, rudy.
I went to discount tire direct and most rims that SUPPOSEDLY fit the our accents are +40.
I can't figure it out. And the real crappy thing is, there are no real hi-po shops around my town that probably even know what offset is.....ugh.

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Mokurai · Jun 19, 2001

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This is a warning too all of you, dont be stupid like me

last year when i firest got my car i got a set of 16" focal r3's (this is when i first started tuning any cars) and had a ghetto rice shop mount them. well i had really bad wheel shake and balancing problems for the year to pass. well everytime i took my car to a shop they told me the same thing balance and align so i wasted the money and it never worked. well as time went on my knowledge became better and i began to realize the real problem that was causing the wheel shake.the rims had the wrong offset on them and it was screwing alot of stuff up (the rice shop put spacers on the front tires which didn't help much either but i had no way around that at the time). about a month ago the cheap-o tires where replaced by a set of nitto nt450's which i payed good money for. while i'm at the beach last week, i didnt straighten out my tires and my friend looked at them and the front two tires were completely bald on the inside (month old tires). now i know i drive alot but not enough for them to wear out like that. so to make a long story short, the spacers and the large offset were completely throwing my camber off and my wheels were bascically riding on the inside of the tires and not flat. so now i have no choice but to rake up another $1k for a new set of rims (not complaining b/c i wanted new ones anyway) but it is just an inconvenient time. hopefully you will all heed my warning and check the offset before you get your wheels. now im out 200 for 2 front tires and i need to find new rims.

for those curious i'm looking at inperio m-05's in white or motegi mr7's in gun metal, i have to check the offsets on them first though. +40 on a 7 inch wheel is what you want

if anyone knows where i can get wheels for cheap let me know.

I drive a bumble bee
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Gidday,

Suggestion: Find out the original size of your tyres...and the overall diameter...i.e. 175/70/13". I have stayed with the same size wheel because it gives better acceleration for such a small engine. I have put 185/70/13" on. This raised me up slightly but does not touch the fenders, etc. The other way would have been to go to 185/60/13" and kept the same height, etc. To go up in wheel size you need to come down in tyre ratio...i.e. from 70 profile to 60 for 14"; 60 profile to 50 for 15"...you get the picture. Of course as you go down in profile you must also go wider in the wheel. You mention off sets and this appears to have been taken into account by all the wheels that you are looking at. Check what the Accent offset is supposed to be with a tyre firm..i.e.Yokohama. Then have all wheels balanced and then wheel aligned on all four wheels...not just the two front ones as this is a front wheel drive vehicle.
Just a suggestion!

Red_AGT · Jun 19, 2001

I was wondering. If you have 14's and they are supposed to be have a profile of 60, does it make a difference that I have 65?

The stock GT's came with 175/65/14's.

Does the width of the tire or the overall diameter change the speed displayed on your speedometer?

I was thinking of maybe doing 195/50/15's or something. Eventually I want to get some new rims, something nicer than the stock alloys. Should it maybe then be 195/55/15's then if there is such a tire?

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Rudy · Jun 19, 2001

thanks for the thought but i infact had 205/40/16's and did have them balanced and aligned multiple times. i took the offset into account b/c in order for the wheels to be placed there was a need for spacers and with that additional distance from the hub added to the larger offset it was throwing something off.on u.s. accents there are 4 bolts holding everything together between the screws that hold the lugs on and they get in the way of placing the wheel flat up against the hub. this is another problem that i figured the larger offset would be held accountable for.

any further input is definatley welcomed, i am still learning and always will be.

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4doorGL · Jun 20, 2001

Ah yes, the dreaded captive rotors <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>.

There is a way to fix this which I'm working on. I'll be swapping Tiburon brakes onto my car in a month or so (if money allows) and I'll let you all know how it goes.

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Mokurai · Jun 20, 2001

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I was wondering. If you have 14's and they are supposed to be have a profile of 60, does it make a difference that I have 65?

The stock GT's came with 175/65/14's.

Does the width of the tire or the overall diameter change the speed displayed on your speedometer?

I was thinking of maybe doing 195/50/15's or something. Eventually I want to get some new rims, something nicer than the stock alloys. Should it maybe then be 195/55/15's then if there is such a tire?

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-=1997 Red Accent GT=-
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Gidday,

I have been told in the past the 65 aspect is the new version of the 60 aspects so should not make any difference there. I think it would most probably be 195/50/15....at a guess. Depending how wide you go I do not think it will make a difference on the speedo....however the overall diameter is a different kettle of fish! Do not go any more than 5 cm either way as it will upset your speedo reading, and having gone bigger in the wheel diameter you will find you are going faster then it says...hullo Mr Plod!
i.e. My Valiant used to have ER70/14 tyres as standard, and cruise at 100 kmh (62mph) at 3000 rpm. I put 145/60/15 tyres on and found that although the speedo was showing 100kmh at 3000 I was actually doing 120kmh. So be aware of that.Maybe www.hve.com.au can help you eh.

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Mokurai · Jun 20, 2001

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thanks for the thought but i infact had 205/40/16's and did have them balanced and aligned multiple times. i took the offset into account b/c in order for the wheels to be placed there was a need for spacers and with that additional distance from the hub added to the larger offset it was throwing something off.on u.s. accents there are 4 bolts holding everything together between the screws that hold the lugs on and they get in the way of placing the wheel flat up against the hub. this is another problem that i figured the larger offset would be held accountable for.

any further input is definatley welcomed, i am still learning and always will be.

I drive a bumble bee
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You realise that the spacer would add to the offset amount....I should imagine. Maybe those screws that get in the way of bolting the wheel up close to the hub should be countersunk? Maybe you should try a narrower tyre...say 185 (195)/40/16? Me? I guess I would have stayed with a maximum of 15" wheels with such a small car.
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Rudy · Jun 20, 2001

yea i know it adds to the offset. i never tought about countersinking the bolts, do you have any ideas on how i would go about doing that?

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4doorGL · Jun 20, 2001

Rudy, it'd be A LOT easier and maybe even cheaper to just through some 2K+ Tiburon brakes (non-captive) up front on your car.

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hyundaixtreme · Jun 20, 2001

Those damn bolts on the front brakes geez I hate those. When I had my 99 Accent 4Dr it was kinda hard finding wheels that were countersunk because of those bolts, and then when I did find the right ones they ended up rubbing probably because they were the wrong offset. But anyways just my 2 cents. But I would have to agree if your wheels aren't sitting on there flush and those bolts are stopping the wheels from sitting properly then that would probably explain the inside tire wear.

Erikgsi · Jun 20, 2001

guys you can just use a dremel tool on the rims it works great thats what i did with my 16" pacer rims with 205/40/r16 hp kelly tires. you just put the rims up on the car bolt it tight so you can see the marks on the rims when you take them off. and then machine out where the bolt hits it works great and you can make them flush.
i had the wrong offset rims +35 mm but they still worked i would recomend +40mm or +43 if possible. but it takes about 2 hours to do all 4 rims its not that hard just be very careful not to go too deep or to scratch up the other side of the rims
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truffryderz99va · Oct 24, 2001

well i had 14 inch chrome wheels wit 185/60/14 (no name) tires that gave me hell the whole time i had them

i mean i could never get them to stop makin my steering wheel and now my brake pedal to stop vibrating
i had em balanced numerous times, but now they are gone and the new owners seem to have no probs wit em, what gives????!!!!<img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>

KnOcKeR · Oct 25, 2001

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Those damn bolts on the front brakes geez I hate those. When I had my 99 Accent 4Dr it was kinda hard finding wheels that were countersunk because of those bolts, and then when I did find the right ones they ended up rubbing probably because they were the wrong offset. But anyways just my 2 cents. But I would have to agree if your wheels aren't sitting on there flush and those bolts are stopping the wheels from sitting properly then that would probably explain the inside tire wear.

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you stil having this same problems on your 2k HyundaiExtreme?????

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