[dj_dlrm]

hey guys i need opinions here

my girlfriend bought me a zapco ag1000 amp and im currently am running 1 eclipse 10"88100dvc sub

and the baby pounds i love it

i was thinking of adding 1 more or the same 10 " subs and the same line 1 15"

what do you guys think of a 2 10"s and a 15?


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[AUTOBOT]

I like the idea of only two 10" subs better.<img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>


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[guilty]

If you go with only two 10s you that have Dual Voice Coils you can only wire them with either a 1ohmn load or a 4ohmn load. And your amp may not be able to handle the 1ohmn load and fry. But if you go 2 10s and 1 15 and the 10s and the 15 are all dual voice coil you would be able to wire it at a 2.33 ohmn load which would be better for the amp. I had 6 10s in my truck 3 were wired to a BD1000x1 on a 2.33 ohmn load and the other 3 were hookep the same way to the same kind of amp. And I never had a problem with my amps. But the decision is up to you.


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[dj_dlrm]

i would like to get as close tro 4ohms as possable bridged it puts out 900 watts into 4 ohms

the speakers are rated at 3ohm's per voice coil. i have 1 10 right now in their running from the voice coils in series.

the 15" will aslo be rated at 3 ohms a vc.

any suggestions with that


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[SilkySpinZ]

Well, let's see if an opinion of <b>the girlfriend</b> matters.

You don't really ever want to mix sub brands <i>OR</i> sub sizes, even if they are the same brand!

Instead of getting the benefits of both like you would hope, instead the exact opposite, you become limited by the weaknesses of each.

For example, you might be thinking of doing this so that you could have all the low extension and 1st octave strength of the 15" sub, while also having all the speed, accuracy, and strong 2nd octave performance of the 10's... I mean, you told me those were your initial intentions.

INSTEAD however, you will end up with the opposite... If the tens bottom out before the 15", you will end up having them bottom out on low loud notes, meaning the 15" won't ever reach it's low end potential, because surely you will turn it down when the 10's bottom out, right? It only makes sense that way.

Likewise, while the 10's are performing crystal-clear in the higher faster kick-drum range, the 15" moves slower, a little muddier, and it will cloud up the sound somewhat, that muddiness will be audible, much in the same way that the 10's bottoming out would be.

Anyways, my point is you simply end up with the compromises and limitations of BOTH speakers, rather than the best of both worlds! And believe me, after investing into that amp for you (plus sound stuff), I don't think I want that, sorry. You might as well, just use whatever you had before.

Only run one, since you have the ten, I <b>definitely</b> would recommend getting the second ten though.

If you had room (and I know you don't) for two tens and a 15" sub, you would have been able to pick up maybe three tens instead of two, and build in even more airspace per sub than your sub is getting now, that should help get not just your total SPL up, but will also extend the low frequency response... It will sound SICK and you will be surprised just how 15"-ish you can get those tens sounding! <img src=/images/forums/snitz/eek.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>

However, I know there isn't enough space to do that... unless I didn't check it properly... I can take a look.

Anyways... this is my advice, honey.


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[dj_dlrm]

thanks for the advice sweety.

and i know what you are saying. but you have to look at it this way now the way i was looking at it would be i would run the 15" bridged from the ag1000 amp so that would be roughly 900 watts rms into that baby a

and since the ag650 is 6 x 50 or 4 x90 or 3 x 150 i can run the components off 2 off the 3 channels it would be set up for and then the last channel in mono so teh 10"s would have enough power and would not have worry about bottoming out.. allthiough they are bottomless design.


but i dont know what im going to do.. yet these are just suggestions . i will consider waht you said also.


the box that was made for that speaker is to spec with the manufacture's guidelines



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[TypeRShark]

Mixing sizes in subs i the same vehicle and not positioned correctly can cause sound cancellation and it will not seem as loud as it should be. Personally i would stick with the 2 10's and you should be fine or just a single 15<img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>


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[sharkracer]

Second 10 is best. Being Lazy. Dont want to explain


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[Lantra]

I don't have a sterio, but I always thought it depended on what kind of music you used to listin to. If you liked Rap, Hip hop, pop that techno crap or music with bass, you'd get a 10 inch woofer, because they are smalller and best for those, if you liked alternative or metal youd get a 12 inch, or country or classical you'd get a 15 or so. I had a 12 inch in my car a VERY VERY long time ago it was a mtx 12 inch thunder 8000 series in a sealed box powered by a thunder 250 amp, it out hit my friends 2 15's They were name brand but I couldnt remember the name, with a 1000 watt amp in a sealed box. My 12 inch blew his 2 15's outta the water. So, IMO, its just what you listin to, and yes the more the better, but stick with the same size. Unless you like a bit of everything.


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[SilkySpinZ]

Babes, just have two 10" and then later on, you can get two 15" and sell the 10". You want to get the best out of them, ok? <img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>


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[dj_dlrm]

hheheh well since everyone agrees i should only stick with the same size i will do so..

thansk everyone for the help


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[SilkySpinZ]

Welp, I have another suggestion:

Use the AG1000 for the 15", use another amp for the two 10", and use the AG650 for the mids/highs.

This is pretty much a thre-way crossover. I can say that you can run the mids/highs ath approx. 200hz and up, the 10"S from approx. 70hz up to 200hz and lastly, put the 15" in the proper box to achieve a F3 of about 30hz (X-ed over from 70hz down)

You probably didn't realise it, but this set up will allow your system the ability to reproduce more than adequately the entire musical spectrum, especially listening to Trance music.

This last suggestion is probably one of the best, it's more costly, but in the long run, it will be a great investment and you will be more than pleased.


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[frozenfoodman]

NEVER NEVER mix two different size subs. The end result will be some of the worst crap you could imagine, even if you use a different enclosure and different amp. The differnet speakers play waves that will cancel eachother out.<img src=/images/forums/snitz/smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>


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