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I have P205/50R15 Toyo proxes Fz4 and i'm really disappointed in their performance. What should i replace them with?

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just to let ya know i moved this topic here as i think it better fits this particular performance forum.
 

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|Check tirerack.com, they have reviews on tires. personally, i think kuhmo is your best bet, they match the performance numbers of the big boys, have a better wear rating, and usually cost about 20 bucks less.
 

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I like the Falken Azenis.

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tires are all personal opinion, trial and error is really the only way you can find the perfect tire for you. i have nitto nt450's and i love them but i'm thinking about trying out a set of toyo proxes. also i've heard alot of good things about kuhmo ecstas.

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I'll say stay away from Yokahama Paradas. They are "quiet" on the road (no road noise) but they don't have as much dry cornering grip and straight line wheel spin grip as I was hoping for/expecting.

I'm going to try the Kuhmo's or the Falkens next.

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Tires are indeed about personal opinion. As in everything else, perofrmance has it's price. Dunlop's SP 8000 are fine, they don't last too much, but, who wants to get a tire forever? <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

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I am really thinking of putting Toyo Proxes T1-S on next spring, I have four Toyo Observe X-10 coming for my snow tires and then I am upgrading to 15" wheels for next summer and I do seriously think these are the tires i am getting:
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I dont know the specs, but they sure look good. I ride on 15" wheels, but my my wife's car, another Elantra (and her sister has one too <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>) runs on the standard 14". I was thinking about the Goodyear Eagle F1. Any Suggestions? <img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>

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I prefer the Kumho Ecsta 712 in a 205/50r15. Excellent dry (I successfully ran a whole auto-x season them) and now that it's raining here I can't believe how well the grip in the wet. Price is right too. Roughtly 60 bucks a pop from tirerack.com or about 75 or so at your local dealer.
 

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I like Bridgestone Tires. I have them on my Jeep. Bridgestone Dueller H/Ls 235/70s R15s. On my Elantra, I currently have Hankook H406 205/60 R14s. Excellent all season tire. Im impressed with them. Now, when I get my rims next spring, Borbet Type S, Im getting Pirelli P7000 Z-rated tires. The price is right and perform well. Everyone who I talked to who has them, raved about them. As far as tire companies go, I would stay away from Goodyear (bad experiences with them, belts in all 4 tires snapped and went prematurely. Michelins are expensive and overrated. I would stick to Bridgestone, Hankook, Pirelli, Yokohamas, and Dunlops.

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I like my Dunlop SP5000 Sport Asymetricals
15/205/50 on stock alloy rims


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After a lenghty research and lots of discussions with guys who race their cars on a track, i came to a conclusion. The best high performance summer tires are the Toyo T1S and Bridgestone SO-3 Pole Position. The only problem is that they last about two summers and then are too worn out.

R compound tires would last about the same time and they actually cost about the same while providing a lot more grip.

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I agree with 954dooR, check the tirerack site The reviews should help guide you, based on what is important to you: http://www.tirerack.com/index.jsp

I'm considering the DUNLOP SP SPORT 9000, or the KUMHO ECSTA SUPRA 712 for the spring.

The stock tires, suck.

Keep in mind tires that wear quicker are softer and stick better. The more durable the tire the harder the rubber, but they stick less to the pavement.

I generally go through new tires, every two years (same for my snow tires), I have a heavy foot.<img src=/images/forums/snitz/wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0>


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jeeez, you actually get two years out of a set of tires. I wish i could go that long. 6 months and roughly 20 autocrosses and it's time for new shoes!! <img src=/images/forums/snitz/smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0> But I do prefer those Kumhos!! <img src=/images/forums/snitz/thumbup.gif width=25 height=18 border=0>


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