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Oops - posted this in the wrong area - but here it is anyways, in case anyone is looking - I was told by the selling dealer that performing maintenance such as oil changes on my car would void the warranty. The owners manual also specifies that they reccomend a dealer do maintenace but you can take it to another "qualified mechanic" at your discretion. I recently had the oil changed at a Sears Service Center, and my boyfriend is freaking out - thinks they did a horrible job, and now wants to do it himself. Any help?

[Edited by angiegail77 on Feb 24, 2005 9:50 AM]

[Edited by angiegail77 on Feb 24, 2005 9:55 AM]
 

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Well, if they just changed your oil and you have the little window sticky on your windshield (aka jiffy lube or other places like that) then if he (your b.f.) changes it right now, how are they going to know it wasn't sears that did it? It's not like there's a sticker on the inside of the oil pan's drain plug that when you unscrew it it says void or anything, so screw the dealer, have your boyfriend change the oil, and shut him up. By the way, how does he think they did a horrible job???
 

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Well, he wants to be the one to change the oil "from now on", but i am affraid that if i don't have these things done according to the manufacture's recommendations - then i'll screw myself! My boyfriend looked in the oil resevoir and found dark brown sludgy oil inside and stuck to the inside of the cap. Besides that, he just doesn't trust mechanic's in general, so it really wouldn't matter where I take it, he will think they did a bad job. The whole thing started last night when my car started to jerk, lagg, and idle sporadically w/ the "check engine" light flashing - he blamed it on the oil change - but, after talking it to the dealer this morning, they said most likely not! It is there now being looked at and hopefully i'll know soon.

[Edited by angiegail77 on Feb 24, 2005 10:35 AM]
 

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changing your own oil will not void the warranty.... not at all, here are some things that will not void your warranty, but will put the liability on someone else other then the dealer.

If you go to a jiffy lube, and they change your oil and leave the drain plug out of the car or do ont put any oil in the car and the motor seizes, then you would have the jiffy lube insurance be the one to pay for the new motor. and that new motor would still be covered up by the original manufacturers warranty. (make sense?), however, if they install a used motor, which some places have the right to do, then they are the ones responsible to cover the warranty on the motor to the full length of the manufacturers warranty, which for you is fine, until the motor is out of warranty. ]

thus lets say that this happens at 40,000 miles, your hyundai has a 100,000 warranty. they choose to install a new motor (brand new), the motor is then covered under hyundai for the remaining 60,000 miles. Lets say that they install a used motor that has 27,000 miles on it from the same year car, then jiffy jube would be responsible for the warranty until the CAR hits 100,000 miles, but hyundai would be responsible for the rest of the drivtrain. Or if you do not tell the dealer and it goes into service, and they figure out it's not the original motor, then you would have to go back to jiffy lube.

NOW, if your boyfriend changes your oil, and he forgets the drain plug, and he tells you that he can do it properly, and your motor seizes, you are not out of the warranty, your boyfriend is now responsible for replacing the motor and maintaining the warranty until the car reaches 100,000 on the motor, hyundai is still responsible for all the oem gear covered that was not replaced on the car, like the transmission, etc etc.

I do my own oil changes because i am competant to do so, and it save me money because the one time I had it done at a lube place, the synthetic oil change is really really expensive.
 

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Not sure which car you have, but there is probably an ecu reprogram for it to cure your check engine light (I'm assuming accent).

The sludge inside of the oil cap on a new car, light brown, looks funky- seen it a lot of times on a car's first oil change or so. Don't worry about it.

I've also heard people say the dealer told them doing their own maintenance will void the warranty. If something major comes up, it's easiest to get taken care of if the dealer knows they've done all the maintenance. Plus, if they have, they worry about if they caused the damage (depending on what it is), right? I mean I would, yeah let's cover this.. even if it's not covered by warranty they'll bite the cost.

Sure you can back up maintenance claims with receipts, but what about other items such as rear brake service, coolant flush, trans flush that may be skipped accidentally. That's why it's great to have a service advisor on your side to help you take care of your vehicle. And without seeing it every 3 months or so, who knows.

What if, for some reason, your ball joint needs replacing. Will you have checked for this every time you do your oil change? I bet a dealer will, and will schedule an appointment for you to have it replaced or replace it right then and there, instead of letting it fail on you and possibly causing more harm to your vehicle or even to others.

Ok I just realized I'm rambling. Sorry, good luck, and welcome to hyundaiperformance.com! :)
 

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Well, turns out the oil change was not to blame. Late yesterday evening, after the dealer had the car all day, they called me and said that all i needed was new spark plugs and wires...and they can do it for me for the low price of $297.00!! WHAT? For plugs and wires?? I was blown away to say the least and kindly declined their offer to do the job. However, they did find it necessary to charge me a $95.00 "diagnostic fee" - of course they would, I mean, after having the car ALL DAY, they did have to hook it up to their diagnostic machine for probably a whole entire 3 minutes or so!!! So, I drove my car back home, as it lugged and jerked the whole way, and this morning my boyfriend went to Auto Zone and bought brand new top of the line plugs and wires, all for the low price of $42.00 - He installed them this morning, took a whopping 30-40 minutes too! Saved myself $250.00 - Gotta love the dealer, they sure know how to look out for you - and your wallet too! Of course now, the "check engine light" remains on...guess i better figure out how to clear the code myself, before taking it back to the dealer to have them do it for, i'm sure, the low price of $150.00 :)

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unhook the battery and step on the brake pedal for 5 seconds. the brake lights will drain all the juice out of your system and capacitors and youre ECU will be reset.

yes you can do your own maintinence but KEEP ALL RECIEPTS. for the plugs/wires, oil, coolant, tranny fluids, everything. if one little thing is not accounted for then your warranty can (and probably will) be voided.
 

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Originally posted by sidecutter
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changing your own oil will not void the warranty.... not at all, here are some things that will not void your warranty, but will put the liability on someone else other then the dealer.

If you go to a jiffy lube, and they change your oil and leave the drain plug out of the car or do ont put any oil in the car and the motor seizes, then you would have the jiffy lube insurance be the one to pay for the new motor. and that new motor would still be covered up by the original manufacturers warranty. (make sense?), however, if they install a used motor, which some places have the right to do, then they are the ones responsible to cover the warranty on the motor to the full length of the manufacturers warranty, which for you is fine, until the motor is out of warranty. ]

thus lets say that this happens at 40,000 miles, your hyundai has a 100,000 warranty. they choose to install a new motor (brand new), the motor is then covered under hyundai for the remaining 60,000 miles. Lets say that they install a used motor that has 27,000 miles on it from the same year car, then jiffy jube would be responsible for the warranty until the CAR hits 100,000 miles, but hyundai would be responsible for the rest of the drivtrain. Or if you do not tell the dealer and it goes into service, and they figure out it's not the original motor, then you would have to go back to jiffy lube.

NOW, if your boyfriend changes your oil, and he forgets the drain plug, and he tells you that he can do it properly, and your motor seizes, you are not out of the warranty, your boyfriend is now responsible for replacing the motor and maintaining the warranty until the car reaches 100,000 on the motor, hyundai is still responsible for all the oem gear covered that was not replaced on the car, like the transmission, etc etc.

I do my own oil changes because i am competant to do so, and it save me money because the one time I had it done at a lube place, the synthetic oil change is really really expensive.
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NOT completely true. If a brand new engine is installed after the other oil replacment shop's screwup, and is installed under insurance or paid for cash by a Hyundai Dealership, it carries ONLY a 1 year, 20,000 km (in Canada) warranty.

The rest of the car and the remaining non-replaced parts would carry any remaining bumper to bumper warranty.

Example:
If a brand new car was driven for 8,000 km, and serviced by non-dealer, and the non-dealer double seals the oil filter, therefore causing a pressurized oil blowout and a subsequent engine seize - the engine could be replaced by the shop's insurance company, and the new engine would carry a 1 Year/20,000 km warranty, and the rest of the car would continue with its 92,000 bumper to bumper warranty.

Btw... True Story...

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lets put it this way, oil isnt under warranty, so they cannot void your warranty for changing your oil. i dono about canada and austrailia i hear all these bogus voided warranty stories, but not over here in the states do they void warranties for touching your engine, but it also depends on the dealer, but its a Federal Law that you cannot void a warranty unless what you modified is a direct cause of the malfunction. and for those of you who cannot change your plugs and wires , change oil, and ect. dont go to your dealership to get stuff done, take it to sears/midas/ect. to get normal wear and tear stuff done, im talking as far as clutches and timing belts as well, they cover their own warranty on what they do, dont go to dealerships for that stuff, they have a serious markup on their labor and parts.
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